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Quote: pie.warrior "JUST PUT HIM ON IGNORE....AND FOR CHRIST SAKE STOP QUOTING HIS POSTS SO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT AND MUTED THE "CRAP DOZEY" DON'T HAVE TO SEE HIS RAMBLINGS'"

This. I wish there was a way once someone is ignored, their posts don't show up when quoted as well, sort of defeats the object.

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Quote: pie.warrior "JUST PUT HIM ON IGNORE....AND FOR CHRIST SAKE STOP QUOTING HIS POSTS SO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT AND MUTED THE "CRAP DOZEY" DON'T HAVE TO SEE HIS RAMBLINGS'"


Why do you write your posts in capital letters? Are you worried nobody will read your nonsense if it was in lower case?

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Quote: meast "It was a rounded figure, it was certainly no more than 150, but just replying to a Leigh poster who claimed Leigh take big followings wherever and whatever, clearly, that day proved they don't!
2002, you brought decent followings, but you were doing well, 2005 you weren't just it proves the point.'"



Now where did I quote that ?

I look back at 1994-98 when we averaged a mere 1000 fans, and we still took 2-300 to ground like Carlisle (and probably lost).

As a percentage, we have always travelled well because most Leigh fans are quite hardcore and go to all the games.

Leigh this season will have a hardcore of about 5000 (Similar to Huddersfield).

I will leave the mathematics to you because you probably wouldn't take a 1000 to Halifax !

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Quote: maurice "Cas can expect 1500/2000 for the opener and our first home game will be 8k+'"


That will be great following at Cas Tigers Maurice for the SL opener. We should be looking at about 9,000 on the Friday night if Leigh bring about 2,000 over. I'm expecting a very tight and entertaining game. Can't wait.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Just out of interest, when you quote figures for away support, that can only include the numbers in the stand behind the sticks and doesn't include other away fans who may be in the main stand or, heaven forbid, in with your lot down the other side of the ground ?

Also, 1000 fans out of an attendance of 5000 is a significant number, I'm not sure that any club would want to get flippant over that number of fans turning up.'"

How have i been flippant? just providing the numbers that I've been given.
And yes, those are the official figures, obviously there will be the odd few in other area's, but not enough to significantly alter the figures

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Quote: maurice "573 would make that stand a quarter full, check the youtube footage and count the 3/400 or so'"

Better tell your stadium manager then cos she was the one who gave me the figure icon_eek.gif

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Quote: dickie mint "Yet another post where you have tried to manufacture figures to get your point over, opinionated or not they certainly take more fans to away games than your lot.'"


How am i manufacturing figures? i gave an estimate based on what i remember from the time.
As for better away support, then, that is relative isn't it? Leigh could take more than Huddersfield to Wigan on a Thursday night for instance.

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Quote: Snowy "Now where did I quote that ?

I look back at 1994-98 when we averaged a mere 1000 fans, and we still took 2-300 to ground like Carlisle (and probably lost).

As a percentage, we have always travelled well because most Leigh fans are quite hardcore and go to all the games.

Leigh this season will have a hardcore of about 5000 (Similar to Huddersfield).

I will leave the mathematics to you because you probably wouldn't take a 1000 to Halifax !'"

Where did i say you had quoted anything?
And believe it or not, when we were in the old 2nd and 3rd divisions we used to take good followings to most games,even though our home games were usually in the 1000's or 2000's.
We probably would take 1000 to Halifax if it was meaningful.

Not sure why the Needy Leigh fans are getting wound up again though, i only quoted away support figures icon_smile.gif

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38313318

Super league attendances are up compared to 2015 according to this bbc article. I find this suprising, considering the best supported club, Leeds, did not take part in the Super League Super 8's this year. Surely the Qualifying 8's are not counted as super league.

Also when we host an international tournament, our total attendances are around half of rugby unions, 2.3 million compared to 5 million.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38313318

Super league attendances are up compared to 2015 according to this bbc article. I find this suprising, considering the best supported club, Leeds, did not take part in the Super League Super 8's this year. Surely the Qualifying 8's are not counted as super league.

Also when we host an international tournament, our total attendances are around half of rugby unions, 2.3 million compared to 5 million.


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SL attendances were down 1%

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Quote: SmokeyTA "SL attendances were down 1%'"


Why are you suggesting that Deloitte's Sports Business Group are wrong in their findings?


"Meanwhile, including the successful hosting of the Four Nations competition across six different venues, Rugby League's attendances reached 2.3 million in 2016, with Super League attendances up slightly compared with 2015"

Are you going to provide a full "William Eve" breakdown of stats to support your claim, can't you just accept the independent findings from a professional business?

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Quote: shinymcshine "Why are you suggesting that Deloitte's Sports Business Group are wrong in their findings?


"Meanwhile, including the successful hosting of the Four Nations competition across six different venues, Rugby League's attendances reached 2.3 million in 2016, with Super League attendances up slightly compared with 2015"

Are you going to provide a full "William Eve" breakdown of stats to support your claim, can't you just accept the independent findings from a professional business?'"


Because attendances are Smokey's main argument against the current league structure, so any slightly positive news on attendances will be met with scorn as it doesn't fit in with their agenda. I also look forward to Smokey providing a full breakdown of attendances 2015v2016.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Why are you suggesting that Deloitte's Sports Business Group are wrong in their findings?


"Meanwhile, including the successful hosting of the Four Nations competition across six different venues, Rugby League's attendances reached 2.3 million in 2016, with Super League attendances up slightly compared with 2015"

Are you going to provide a full "William Eve" breakdown of stats to support your claim, can't you just accept the independent findings from a professional business?'"


He's not interested in facts unless they suit his agenda.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Why are you suggesting that Deloitte's Sports Business Group are wrong in their findings?


"Meanwhile, including the successful hosting of the Four Nations competition across six different venues, Rugby League's attendances reached 2.3 million in 2016, with Super League attendances up slightly compared with 2015"

Are you going to provide a full "William Eve" breakdown of stats to support your claim, can't you just accept the independent findings from a professional business?'"

Well firstly Deloitte's report doesn't say that. Notice the lack of quotation marks in the article secondly we know what the attendances were and helpfully they have been provided to us. In detail.

the18thman.com/2016/09/28/super- ... view-2016/


www.totalrl.com/super-league-att ... last-year/
Quote: shinymcshine "Why are you suggesting that Deloitte's Sports Business Group are wrong in their findings?


"Meanwhile, including the successful hosting of the Four Nations competition across six different venues, Rugby League's attendances reached 2.3 million in 2016, with Super League attendances up slightly compared with 2015"

Are you going to provide a full "William Eve" breakdown of stats to support your claim, can't you just accept the independent findings from a professional business?'"

Well firstly Deloitte's report doesn't say that. Notice the lack of quotation marks in the article secondly we know what the attendances were and helpfully they have been provided to us. In detail.

the18thman.com/2016/09/28/super- ... view-2016/


www.totalrl.com/super-league-att ... last-year/


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So Deloitte are lying on their own website?

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/p ... event.html

Just accept that there might be a different methodology from the one you are using, and that each might have its own margin of error, and that within that the difference in SL attendance from last year to this is negligible.

However I see no benefit in Deloitte suggesting there was an increase if there wasn't one.
So Deloitte are lying on their own website?

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/p ... event.html

Just accept that there might be a different methodology from the one you are using, and that each might have its own margin of error, and that within that the difference in SL attendance from last year to this is negligible.

However I see no benefit in Deloitte suggesting there was an increase if there wasn't one.


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