I agree, looking forward to it isn't a vote of confidence in the whole thing, I would much rather the bottom club be replaced by the top club, this will keep the action on field going until the last weeks or even down to the wire as we had a few years ago with Cas & Wakey.

You seem desperate to have an argument because you see a criticism of Bradford where one doesnt really exist. Bradford's attendances are poor. They are poor for Bradford, that may be because they were relegated. Id readily agree that relegation destroys crowds.

And yes, Bradford compared to other clubs have huge potential to get back to where they were. Lets hope they do.

The wider point is that there is clearly a connection and it is dumb to be celebrating 1 8k crowd when we have lost 1500 for 30 weeks beforehand.

Nobody is celebrating it, it was mentioned because it has relevance to negating the narrative you're trying to impose. It was roughly 9,100 btw, not 8k. I'm starting to see where you're going wrong.

You're the one pushing for the argument. You keep saying Bradford's attendances are poor, but I say that for where they are currently and for what's happened in their recent past, they're not.

I can’t believe you’re continuing a discussion with Smokey, remember he’s a Leeds fan.

He doesn’t support a club who have had no success for a number of years.

Let’s be honest, if Leeds were to have a similar slump & found themselves in the Championship their crowds would still top ten thousand

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Well actually, if their real love ever manages to get back into the Premier League & win stuff, the South Stand would become a much quieter place.

Yes they were, and it wasnt the 9.1k Bradford got, but the 8k Wakefield will get. Thats the question that was asked before hyper-sensitivity took hold.

Is the 8k generated by the million pound game worth the terrible crowds Bradford and Wakefield got up to this point?

I dont believe they are, i dont believe that that 8k is worth what we lost by seeing Bradford fall, and i dont believe it is worth the damage done to Wakefield.

Its just the usual rubbish , desperatly trying to use the structure for the Bulls decining support, when as has been pointed out by Bulls own fans, its a decade of poor performance both on and off the pitch, several years of it under licencing

Because it didnt. Relegation and the prospect of it correlated with far poorer attendances for Bradford than not. Even if you want to delude yourself differently

Those things arent mutually exclusive. If you want to say Bradfords attendances are good for a relegated club, good for a 2nd tier club, good for a club with this, that or the other excuse, fine.

They are still poor.

Its just the usual rubbish , desperatly trying to use the structure for the Bulls decining support, when as has been pointed out by Bulls own fans, its a decade of poor performance both on and off the pitch, several years of it under licencing

My mistake, I thought by quoting me you were continuing the conversation we were having and not resetting the clock to lunch time. Easy mistake to make.

That said, they really weren't.

The closest anybody came to mentioning crowds before your first post: