So as long as he doesn't say anything directly at the referee, it's ok?

Let's see what happens when we get a black referee and how many people would find it ok to shout racial abuse at home from the stands "as long as it's not directly at him."

Wane's comments were a direct suggestion that the ref was bent (corrupt) for having the temerity to refer the try to the VR. Initial comments from the studio were that it was a no try; repeated showings suggested it was a try. It was a good & fair decision to refer it. It will help reinforce Wane's victim mentality.

Jesus, this thread is rapidly becoming one of the most ridiculous in a while.


Have you ever slagged off your employer in conversation? Made comments that might get you in trouble if they heard? Ever? If so you're a hypocrite.

Wane made a comment in the heat of the moment. I'm sure we've all shouted "oh just bloody give it ref!" when tries have been referred to the VR. That's all Wane was doing, expressing frustration that the ref appeared to doubt what was - to me at least, and probably most people - clearly a good try.

Whether you find the wording particularly offensive depends on just how much offence you choose to take, as is the norm these days. If you're shouting 'homophobia' give your head a wobble and then bang it against the nearest wall. Then do us all a favour and go play with the toaster in the bath, please.

Trial by the Sky Producer's finger when sat in the stands is a bit much.

I understand that, everyone does. But you've got to realise that common sense isn't really part of the world anymore, certainly not in professional sport. I don't honestly think Zac Hardaker is actually homophobic either, it was just the derogatory word of choice that came out. Wane has to realise that whilst representing Wigan RL he has to keep up with modern behavioural protocols. No use of words that can in any way be linked to race or sexuality. If he replaced 'bent' with 'daft' there would be no call for anyone to debate these things.

What has happened to RL fans?

Honestly

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Absolute rubbish, for more than one reason. Firstly, there's a difference between slagging someone off and calling them "corrupt". The latter is slander.

Secondly, there's a difference between what you say in private and what you say in public. Private comments don't harm the image of the person/group you're making them against (and can be refuted).

Finally, if I have made comments like Wane in the past about my employers, it doesn't make me a hypocrit to say he shouldn't. Maybe I would have learnt from the experience after suffering the consequences. So really, just a poor poor argument.


But you or I dint represent the club in a professional capacity. Kids on the playground swear in the heat of the moment, it doesn't mean I can when I'm teaching them.


If you actually read what I put earlier in the thread, you'd see I used almost the exact same phrase! I don't think for one second he's suggesting he's homophobic. I'm suggesting he thinks he's corrupt. That's not exactly better! For a game that wants a good image and attract sponsors, you can't have coaches shouting slanderous remarks in public, even "in the heat of the moment".

If you're going to aggressively join an argument, at least make sure you know what the argument is.

It's not an RLFans thing, check social media, forums and newspaper comments the world over.
The world's gone stark raving mad.

I blame Maurice Lindsay.

I guess they don't play the Rfl respect message before games at the job?

Off with his ugly head.

And there is many definitions in the dictionary's of the word "Fag" which is what Hardaker was previously done for. However, none of them define it as an homosexual comment.

Really?

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It was all in the moment, and doesn't mean that Wane actually thinks that the ref was actually copulating, nor that he is corrupt/biased, nor illegitimate. Wane should be able to control his mouth better, and probably will in future, but really, nothing to see here. FFS.

Like I say, I have no doubt that he didn't mean it and it was in the heat of the moment. Same as Hardaker. But neither were acceptable. I don't see what reason he has to "control his mouth" if there isn't a consequence fit his actions? I'm not talking the same as Hardaker, but it definitely needs addressing otherwise it basically means you can say what you like about anyone you like from the touchline.

You can't just use "heat of the moment" as an excuse for saying things that are totally unacceptable.