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| You all wanted Catalan to win, they lost. Now go over the game with your neutral glasses on and pick up on the decisions that went against both sides.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Doesn't feel hollow at all TBH.
Saints strolled through the game and it was clear very, very early in the match that Saints were grinding them down and it was a matter of time before we opened up a gap, irrespective of refereeing.
Saints were the fresher team because they had earned the right to be over the course of the season, Catalns were cream crackered because they hadn't earned the right to do anything other than consecutive, tough away games.
That's not to say the ref wasn't awful, but Saints approached the game to grind them down and other than one try from a blatant forward and one when the game had gone, Catalans had no answer - bad ref performance or not.'" Yeah, I'm not saying St Helens wouldn't have got there anyway or didn't deserve to win, it's just sad to see a game's integrity spoiled in that way.
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| The general consensus seems to be that Silverwood and his gang had a bloody awful night. Saints possibly deserved to win, but the officials were so bad its taken any shine off Saints performance. Have we actually got a decent referee in Superleague because if we have, he's been off my radar.
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| Ben Thaler I would say is the best we have at the moment (Widnes fans will disagree I'm sure) and the worst is a toss up between Child and Roby.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "Watch that Zeb Taia try again and you tell me how it's physically possible for him to have scored a legal try. Just because everybody agreed with a wrong decision doesn't make it right, categorically or otherwise.'"
You are correct sir. Unless Taia was able to pass the ball through his body cavity, he had the ball under his right arm, and it re-appeared under his left, so it was lost on the floor and regathered.
Not that it mattered as Leeds were poor anyway !
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| Quote: vernon "You are correct sir. Unless Taia was able to pass the ball through his body cavity, he had the ball under his right arm, and it re-appeared under his left, so it was lost on the floor and regathered.
Not that it mattered as Leeds were poor anyway !'"
I agree that Leeds were poor, but the problem is that it did matter, it gave Catalans a foothold in a game that was in danger of getting away from them. The ref getting that wrong in the heat of the moment I can live with, but the video ref not seeing something that clear is a real problem. The way it's going it's quite possible that a Grand Final will end up being decided on a call that isn't just incorrect, but as blatantly wrong as that one, or several of those from last night. As I said before, professional full time refs and video referral's were supposed to eliminate the major blunders, but we seem to be seeing more and more of them. It's a real concern.
Edited just to add that Saints deserved their victory regardless of how it came about (though denying that most of the contentious decisions went in their favour is fruitless) and I've been very impressed with Saints all season, they've overcome a huge amount of adversity and I'd like to see them win the whole thing
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| Silverwood is the Winston Wolfe of Superleague, as proven in last years Grand Final
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| Where was this furore when the same standard of refereeing was on show for the saints versus castleford game? DP was roundly criticised and maligned as a moaner.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "Where was this furore when the same standard of refereeing was on show for the saints versus castleford game? DP was roundly criticised and maligned as a moaner.'"
Difference here is that the Catalans coach didn't bitch and moan afterwards.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "Where was this furore when the same standard of refereeing was on show for the saints versus castleford game? DP was roundly criticised and maligned as a moaner.'"
Because the decisions weren't as one-sided and Cas couldn't muster enough effort to score even a solitary try.
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| Quote: EHW " Also, given that Silverwood is from Leeds it is also highly likely that he would have preferred Saints to lose the game and Catalans to progress to the final.'" Silverwood is most definitely not from Leeds. His hilarious track record of mutual loathing with the Leeds team is quite well known, not least from when Keith Senior unsubtly let everyone know about it a bit to publicly after the shambles of the WCC back in 2010.
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| Good on him, has the balls to rladmit he had a poor game.rl Many wouldn't.
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| Quote: Cronus "Good on him, has the balls to rladmit he had a poor game.rl Many wouldn't.'"
He had a poor game although not all of his and his team's mistakes favoured the Dragons.
But the point is still relevant that for all the wrong decisions made, the Dragons had the chance to defend them. On the whole they didn't defend them. The responsibility for the result was ultimately down to the two teams involved, and Saints were the stronger side throughout.
Every non-Saints fan wanted the Dragons to win. Sky wanted the Dragons to win. This year, it's all been about 'the story'. Well, the story is that Saints defied all the wishful thinking of the pundits and so-called neutrals and won. Not only did they win but they won comfortably.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "He had a poor game although not all of his and his team's mistakes favoured the Dragons.
But the point is still relevant that for all the wrong decisions made, the Dragons had the chance to defend them. On the whole they didn't defend them. The responsibility for the result was ultimately down to the two teams involved, and Saints were the stronger side throughout.
Every non-Saints fan wanted the Dragons to win. Sky wanted the Dragons to win. This year, it's all been about 'the story'. Well, the story is that Saints defied all the wishful thinking of the pundits and so-called neutrals and won. Not only did they win but they won comfortably.'"
Acute persicution complex or what!
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| Quote: Cronus "Good on him, has the balls to rladmit he had a poor game.rl Many wouldn't.'"
I respect him for that and think most will.
It's when they try to justify clear mistakes that it gets my goat. Fair play to him.
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