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| innit.
I remember it well!
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| Just out of interest have any of you met the Mad Butcher?
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "I'm presuming you may be correct as you like your TV ratings, but a link or some proof would be ideal.
I remember it well. And the mad butcher buying all those freebies for kiwis over here. However I looked up 2002 after your comment and may offer an explanation as to why league was being talked about above Union in NZ as you put it. No Union was being played. The season was over and been for several weeks.
Super 12 Grand Final finished – 25th May 2002
All Black's last Tri-Nations game – August 10 2002
NRL Grand Final with Warriors (NZ's first ever time in GF) – 6 October 2002
A viable explanation. What do you think?'"
To be fair, the S12, S14, S15 always finish at that time. The Tri-Nations also always finish around August too. After they have completed, the NZ provincial competition begins in around early Sept every year and concludes in late October. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think 2002 would have been any different.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Ant80 "Just out of interest have any of you met the Mad Butcher?'"
yep......top bloke. Met him at the Kiwis v England game....
daly...when and where did you live in NZ.......a few have asked....you seem to KNOW what Kiwis think....
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "I'm presuming you may be correct as you like your TV ratings, but a link or some proof would be ideal.
I remember it well. And the mad butcher buying all those freebies for kiwis over here. However I looked up 2002 after your comment and may offer an explanation as to why league was being talked about above Union in NZ as you put it. No Union was being played. The season was over and been for several weeks.
Super 12 Grand Final finished – 25th May 2002
All Black's last Tri-Nations game – August 10 2002
NRL Grand Final with Warriors (NZ's first ever time in GF) – 6 October 2002
A viable explanation. What do you think?'"
the all blacks played a test away the same night after a warriors game.
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| Quote: Dico "innit.
go back and find a post if you want.
it would be stupid saying no S15 player would make the nrl when many of them have played in the nrl.
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| Quote: dally messenger "the all blacks played a test away the same night after a warriors game.'"
You have nothing. Again. Why do you persist?
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Quote: Wellsy13 "Well, just in case you hadn't heard yet, the Kiwis have just won their 3rd major title in 6 years, making them the most successful international side in the world at the moment. This off the back of only one team in the NRL. There are tons of Kiwis spread across the NRL at the moment in Aussie clubs (and they say British clubs have too many imports?!).
Surely this hotbed of RL needs a second NRL team? There must be an appetite for it somewhere. It would do wonders for the international game (creating more diehard league fans around NZ that will no doubt attend international games) as well as no doubt breed a lot more talented players not only for NZ, but for the Pacific Island nations (you know, the ones that are Kiwis until they stopped getting picked!). As daft as that sounds, it would most likely be the case that you'd see them improve because of the slack international eligibility laws, which can only be a bonus to the international game.
What ever happened to the Southern Orcas bid? It seems to have gone very quiet (weren't they even applying to play in the Super League at one point?!). The PNG bid seems to be making more noise than them at the moment. I just think it's a bit of a shame that we could be missing out on probably the best ever chance to expand the game in NZ whilst it's probably at the most popular level it's ever been at over there. At the same time though, the other bids in CC and Perth are very good. Would be amazing if we could fit them all in!'"
why not have a SL based team in the NRL - the UK Warriors for example ? made up only of true brits ? Basically a GB team in the NRL ! .............now onto the third bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau ! posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=15678198#:CHEERS:
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Quote: Wellsy13 "Well, just in case you hadn't heard yet, the Kiwis have just won their 3rd major title in 6 years, making them the most successful international side in the world at the moment. This off the back of only one team in the NRL. There are tons of Kiwis spread across the NRL at the moment in Aussie clubs (and they say British clubs have too many imports?!).
Surely this hotbed of RL needs a second NRL team? There must be an appetite for it somewhere. It would do wonders for the international game (creating more diehard league fans around NZ that will no doubt attend international games) as well as no doubt breed a lot more talented players not only for NZ, but for the Pacific Island nations (you know, the ones that are Kiwis until they stopped getting picked!). As daft as that sounds, it would most likely be the case that you'd see them improve because of the slack international eligibility laws, which can only be a bonus to the international game.
What ever happened to the Southern Orcas bid? It seems to have gone very quiet (weren't they even applying to play in the Super League at one point?!). The PNG bid seems to be making more noise than them at the moment. I just think it's a bit of a shame that we could be missing out on probably the best ever chance to expand the game in NZ whilst it's probably at the most popular level it's ever been at over there. At the same time though, the other bids in CC and Perth are very good. Would be amazing if we could fit them all in!'"
why not have a SL based team in the NRL - the UK Warriors for example ? made up only of true brits ? Basically a GB team in the NRL ! .............now onto the third bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau ! posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=15678198#:CHEERS:
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "You have nothing. Again. Why do you persist?'"
lose the PMS when you post dear.
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| Quote: dally messenger "lose the PMS when you post dear.'"
Bless. See as I said you've got nothing. Why don't you lose your log in and run off to some aussie site. We'll miss your pearls of wisdom and informed debate.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Bless. See as I said you've got nothing. Why don't you lose your log in and run off to some aussie site. We'll miss your pearls of wisdom and informed debate.'"
im sure you would
what im saying here was being discussed back in 2002 / 3 on league unlimited so if you want go on there and ask some of the warriors fans.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Daly, you persist with this rubbish and yet you back it up with nothing.
The AB's will always be the No1 sporting team in NZ.......Rugby Union will always be the No1 sport. The social and demographic make up of the country disctates where and when sports are popular....as I have said, The Warriors are based where they are based purely on the make up of the immediate population......which is pacfic and Maori in its make up.
Europeans.
Example....in the Auckland region, 56% of the population are "European" with over 25% described as pacific/Maori. The averages across New Zealand are 78% European and 21% Maori/Pacific. This is why sports like Basketball and Rugby League are popular in the Auckland region and why European sports, such as Union are bigger elsewhere.
Social stereotyping is not always a good thing, but the worlds largest marketers use it......as do a very large number of my clients. Simple facts that are available to read here ( rlhttps://apps.nowwhere.com.au/StatsNZ/Maps/default.aspxrl) show that the average income is less for non europeans, the lifestyles are different and essentially, NZ is a middle class country. Union is the traditional game of New Zealand.....and whilst crowds are dropping off, other sports, including League have seen fan numbers reduced in recent years.
You again state that S15 will die as a result of the next NRL TV contract but you back it up with nothing.......apart from your opinion which as has been pointed out by Kiwis on these boards, is the stuff of fantasy
I repeat the question: Where did you live in NZ and for how long? Your insightfulness may prove helpfull to some of my major clients as they are always looking for good analysts......especially ones who can back up their research with facts
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| just wait 12 months and youll see if im right or not
RL in nz is the best its ever been
its got decades of growth ahead of it.
union has peaked and in many cases its declining.
eventually Rl will surprass union
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: dally messenger "just wait 12 months and youll see if im right or not'"
In 12 months, this country will be awash with Union fans........so yeah, let's see where we are in November 2011....... rl
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