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Meh, isn't everyone sick of being obsessed about attendances??
Same with the Magic weekend, who cares? people enjoyed themselves, I got to watch all 7 games and anyone who's THAT bothered about the exact attendance of every club oughta get a hobby.
Yes, attendance is important and it would be great to have 5k stuck on the gate but at the end of the day, there's a product on show kids, I think sometimes people forget that.

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Quote: Dico "Meh, isn't everyone sick of being obsessed about attendances??
Same with the Magic weekend, who cares? people enjoyed themselves, I got to watch all 7 games and anyone who's THAT bothered about the exact attendance of every club oughta get a hobby.
Yes, attendance is important and it would be great to have 5k stuck on the gate but at the end of the day, there's a product on show kids, I think sometimes people forget that.'"


Because the future of Rugby League in this country depends on how many fans show up at games, and to a lesser extent how we expand the game to make it more national

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: shambawangy "Because the future of Rugby League in this country depends on how many fans show up at games, and to a lesser extent how we expand the game to make it more national'"

Fans turning up to games is important
Expansion is important
Development of young talent is important
Cap to level the plating field is important
Less overseas players and more UK talent is important

Depending who you speak to, any of the above are the most important thing in the game. IMO, untill ALL of the above are in place, then people like David Hughes are important to the game as they are prepared to bankroll a club until either the club turns the corner or he runs out of money.

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quins heading for a low one tonight against crusaders - thought it was a decent crowd at first till i realised there is only 1 stand open

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Looks to be less than 1000 there today

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Quote: gutterfax "Yes Brother....whatever you say!
GREED and the jealousy of people thinking they could live the DFS 4 year interest free lifestyle caused this dip. As usual, the 1% of the population controlled what went on, but don't for one second say the poor working
class people are the victims here......they all have SKY tv, mobile phones etc.....you cut your cloth accordingly and the majority of the UK didn't....easy to balme Goldmans though isn't it So you think that too many people owning sky tv or mobile phones caused the credit crunch? So now with the recession hitting hard are BT being worked off there feet installing new phone boxes as people ditch their global recession causing mobile phones? No because that has absolutly nothing to do with it. Thats simply advances in technology grandad not people being financially over streched.

People being sold homes on mortgages they couldnt afford with the concept it would be ok because prices would rise forever is what caused it.

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Is the bubble straining to burst at Catalan? Like for like attendances (2010/09) to date show a drop in attendances of just under 17%. Quins attendances are also down around 8% on last season.

However to take the RFL line, you gloss over those and report that like for like attendances are just under 3% up on last year, made up mainly of a 21% rise at Wire and 59% at Crusaders

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Quote: DemonUK "Is the bubble straining to burst at Catalan? Like for like attendances (2010/09) to date show a drop in attendances of just under 17%. Quins attendances are also down around 8% on last season.

However to take the RFL line, you gloss over those and report that like for like attendances are just under 3% up on last year, made up mainly of a 21% rise at Wire and 59% at Crusaders'"


catalans form has been poor though so bound to affect the attendance, and i thought they had a reduced capacity for some games this season due to work taking place on the ground

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Don't know about that, unfortunately things like that are ignored by the RL hating press. Crowds are up, but as I said that is helped mainly by Crusaders move resulting in vastly different attendances and Wires impressive rise. Hull and Wigans crowds are also up around 10% to date......bradfords crowds....down around 12%

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Quote: DemonUK "Don't know about that, unfortunately things like that are ignored by the RL hating press. Crowds are up, but as I said that is helped mainly by Crusaders move resulting in vastly different attendances and Wires impressive rise. Hull and Wigans crowds are also up around 10% to date......bradfords crowds....down around 12%'"
'RL hating press'? Which publications have criticised Catalans attendances this year? As mentioned, they are developing their stadium which has led to reduced capacity and some games being moved. Also, the team under Walters is absolutely pathetic, only real die-hards will be going at the moment and even then they will be having second thoughts. As a sport we are so paranoid.

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Quote: DemonUK "bradfords crowds....down around 12%'"


if your gonna throw figures around at least use accurate ones!

bradfords average last year was 9677, average so far this year is 9133 a drop of about 5.5%- not great (but understandable given our erratic home form), but hardly 12% either.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Scorpions for SL "People being sold homes on mortgages they couldnt afford with the concept it would be ok because prices would rise forever is what caused it.'"

....I don't know. Most of my London friends who bought holiday cottages in Wales could easily afford them icon_wink.gif

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Quote: DemonUK "Hull and Wigans crowds are also up around 10% to date......bradfords crowds....down around 12%'"


Wigan's average for last season - 14,085
Average so far this season - 14,788 with Saints & Wire (Full houses expected) at home to come - should achieve 16K+ with ease.

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Quote: mat "if your gonna throw figures around at least use accurate ones!

bradfords average last year was 9677, average so far this year is 9133 a drop of about 5.5%- not great (but understandable given our erratic home form), but hardly 12% either.'"


Figures taken from superleague website. Average is the average after home games to date and compared like for like. I have not used the final season figure just the average to date. When get hold of my works laptop tomorrow I will pm you the figures I have obtained Mat. I am posting accurate like for like figures.

Also nowhere did i say the press were bagging anyones figures, i was saying people only see figures. You SL lot are very touchy aren't you. I will summarise the findings to date - 6 clubs show an increase, 8 clubs are showing a decrease to date. Overall to date the increase is 2.87%. If any one wants a copy of my spreadsheet pm me your email I will gladly let you have a copy and you can see for yourselves as the season wears on.

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Quote: MattyB "Wigan's average for last season - 14,085
Average so far this season - 14,788 with Saints & Wire (Full houses expected) at home to come - should achieve 16K+ with ease.'"


Average used in my calcs is average after the same games. NOT the final season average

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