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| 4. If the ref actually knows it's a try or it's not a try he should give that decision, if he's not sure he should not be guessing at what he thinks it might be ever!.'" ]
So we abandon a game and play it again if they didn't see? Be a heck of a lot of abandoned games if so!
Ref call is the best of a bad system. The ref gives the decision that would have been made in any case without the cameras there- how it should be IMO! If Sky want to replay it ad-finitum for the tv viewers then so be it- but let the ref make the decision as refs do in thousands of games every weekend. Often guessing at what he (or she) thinks it might be!!!!!!
Playing it back at super slow speed, pixel by pixel to overturn a decision is just bonkers and not at all how most games are refereed!
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| Bin off video ref.
Two clubs relegated every year. 1. The loser of the million pound game. 2. The result of lottery from the clubs in the top 8 that takes place immediately after the SL Grand final.
Clubs promoted are top 4 from middle 8 and winner of mpg which will now be 5 & 6 in the middle 8.
No more sl contracts for players only full time and part time.
Main advantages of this system are:
1. Raising of standards in Championship - this will inevitably increase the player pool bringing about improvements in the England team.
2. Increase interest in the game bringing more income into the game through sponsorship revenue.
3. RFL love a gimmick and this is the ultimate.
Imagine how much better last nights bore fest would have been had we gotten to see Lenaghan and Wane's faces as Lizzie Jones and Matt Baker from the one show pull Wigan's ball out of the velvet bag condemning them to the Championship?
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| Scrums should always be 6 against 6 even when a team has a player binned or sent off.
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| 1, Get rid of the free play rule. 2, Sort the PTB's out. 3, All clubs find a way to dispose of Nigel Wood.
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| One other thing I'd want to look at is where a foul leads to a player being injured off, but for whatever reason the ref deems the foul not worthy of sending off. I understand why, because sending off has a major impact in a game.
However, in the NRL GF the Sharks lost Feki, a specialist winger to injury when he was lifted beyond the vertical. It was a penalty but ended his involvement. Personally I don't want to see tries scored because a winger/centre has gone off, or a team down a halfback through foul play. So my solution would be an extended bench for all teams, but the extra players only to be available if the injury is a result of a foul, and the injured player is then ineligible to return to the field no matter how they recover. It would also have to be an independent ruling by a doctor on whether the injury is game-ending.
I know there would be all sorts of claims about how the system could be worked, but nowadays in defence particularly, the loss of specialist players really hurts. Losing them to injury without foul play is fair enough, but I'd hate to have seen the Storm score tries down their right once Feki was hurt.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "One other thing I'd want to look at is where a foul leads to a player being injured off, but for whatever reason the ref deems the foul not worthy of sending off. I understand why, because sending off has a major impact in a game.
However, in the NRL GF the Sharks lost Feki, a specialist winger to injury when he was lifted beyond the vertical. It was a penalty but ended his involvement. Personally I don't want to see tries scored because a winger/centre has gone off, or a team down a halfback through foul play. So my solution would be an extended bench for all teams, but the extra players only to be available if the injury is a result of a foul, and the injured player is then ineligible to return to the field no matter how they recover. It would also have to be an independent ruling by a doctor on whether the injury is game-ending.
I know there would be all sorts of claims about how the system could be worked, but nowadays in defence particularly, the loss of specialist players really hurts. Losing them to injury without foul play is fair enough, but I'd hate to have seen the Storm score tries down their right once Feki was hurt.'"
This is a sensible suggestion and one I've thought about in the past. It would have to be very carefully thought out as to how to introduce, possibly using the 4th official looking at replays to determine whether foul has occurred.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "One other thing I'd want to look at is where a foul leads to a player being injured off, but for whatever reason the ref deems the foul not worthy of sending off. I understand why, because sending off has a major impact in a game.
However, in the NRL GF the Sharks lost Feki, a specialist winger to injury when he was lifted beyond the vertical. It was a penalty but ended his involvement. Personally I don't want to see tries scored because a winger/centre has gone off, or a team down a halfback through foul play. So my solution would be an extended bench for all teams, but the extra players only to be available if the injury is a result of a foul, and the injured player is then ineligible to return to the field no matter how they recover. It would also have to be an independent ruling by a doctor on whether the injury is game-ending.
I know there would be all sorts of claims about how the system could be worked, but nowadays in defence particularly, the loss of specialist players really hurts. Losing them to injury without foul play is fair enough, but I'd hate to have seen the Storm score tries down their right once Feki was hurt.'"
I understand what you are saying here but, the answer is to deal more harshly with the player(s) that caused the injury.
To increase the bench, just in case seems like using a sledge hammer to crack a nut.
Annoying as it is, how many times in a season does your scenario happen.
The "extra" players would be well brassed off if they had been bench warmers all season, never getting a game etc.
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| For me just apply all the rules at the play the as they are written, play the ball with the foot every time, players must regain their feet & not place the ball then get up. penalise moving off the mark every time. It would slightly slow the ruck down but would stop the need for wrestling fooling around in the tackle. I would like to see throwing the ball dead made a penalty (it used to be in one off the codes) you should have to mark it (clean catch) or touch it down to earn a drop out. Also having a foot in touch or dead in goal should be deemed as tacking the ball out of play resulting in a drop out of scrum against your team. I can see the merit of getting rid of the video ref but would be happy with the system improving.
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| Quote: Look that's not enya "1, Get rid of the free play rule. 2, Sort the PTB's out. 3, All clubs find a way to dispose of Nigel Wood.'"
I like the free play rule but would possibly use it differently. Teams are allowed a free play to gain 30 meters. Anything passed that and advantage has been played. Will stop the large kick chase.
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| I've seen plenty of players injured off in fouls this year, and the best they get is a free interchange off the existing bench and a penalty. We regularly see head high shots leading to players not able to continue, with the offenders conceding a penalty and being put on report. They may well get suspended the next week, but that is no help at all to a team which is a man down.
In any event I'm sure junior players would love the chance to be on the bench just in case. You could easily limit it to just a few players - I'd go for a wing/full back (ideally one player who can cover both), halfback and hooker.
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| Video ref for all games or not at all (All teams in the same league should be playing by the same rules)
Get rid of the draw and bring in the Golden point (No set of fans come away happy or sad from a draw, sport is about winning and losing)
Scrap playing two games over Easter (The standard of rugby drops massively for the Monday and for a week or two after that also)
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| Play the ball needs sorting before anything else, IMO. Also getting a shot clock on the video ref. If he can't make a decision in a couple of minutes, there has to be some doubt. Leave a draw as a draw. Golden point in play-offs is fine but only after 5mins each way of normal rugby.
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| Quote: Madderzahatter " Golden point in play-offs is fine but only after 5mins each way of normal rugby.'"
How do you stop it just being 5 mins worth of teams exchanging drop goals / attempted drop goals? Perhaps make it "next try is the winner" instead?
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| I think the only way to do it would be copy the NFL, but that would force us to change kick-off rules, i.e. the team that scores kicks off. Essentially if the team that receives the ball scores a try on their first possession they win. If they kick a DG or penalty goal, the opposition have one set to score or they lose.
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| Nah there's nothing wrong with a draw. The teams have had 80 minutes to do better than the opposition.
There's no reason for golden point in non-knockout games except to artificially sensationalise the sport. Something the RFL is regularly criticised for with things like the Magic Weekend etc.
I would change the rules on the kickoff though. Have the team that scored kick off.
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