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| Quote: SmokeyTA "So rather than go out and find a young british centre with the potential to be good enough, you look to the NZ reserve grades?'"
Well we have just announced the signings of 3 Welsh youngsters including an 18 year old centre. So unless this rumour about Gelling is true than we are looking at and have found a young British centre.
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| So with their recruitment presumably complete Wigan have now signed 5 foreign players who are not eligible for the England national team that creates the cap exemptions in the first place.
Can the Wigan fans on here not see that this is going outside of the spirit of the cap exemptions?
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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "Well we have just announced the signings of 3 Welsh youngsters including an 18 year old centre.
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So why do you need a 21 year old 'project' from the NZ reserve grades aswell?
We should be importing players we cant produce, the best of the best. Players who add to the quality of the league. We have enough reserve graders and 'projects' over here its a failure of youth development to have to import them.
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| Quote: Saddened! "So with their recruitment presumably complete Wigan have now signed 5 foreign players who are not eligible for the England national team that creates the cap exemptions in the first place.
Can the Wigan fans on here not see that this is going outside of the spirit of the cap exemptions?'"
Now were being criticised for signing Welsh players?
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| Quote: dirtbag83 "Although I've never seen him play so I can't comment on his ability he won't have been picked up by the Roosters if he didn't have something about him and he's only just turned 21. This is still all rumours anyway. Nothing official about Gelling from the club yet'"
Chris Flannery played for the Roosters for years.
If he was any good, they wouldn't have sacked him for a prank gone wrong - they would have "rehabilitated" him.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "So why do you need a 21 year old 'project' from the NZ reserve grades aswell?
We should be importing players we cant produce, the best of the best. Players who add to the quality of the league. We have enough reserve graders and 'projects' over here its a failure of youth development to have to import them.'"
I agree, but we havent actually signed him, like alot of rumours it might be completely untrue.
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| Quote: EHW "Chris Flannery played for the Roosters for years.
If he was any good, they wouldn't have sacked him for a prank gone wrong - they would have "rehabilitated" him.'"
Because that worked so well for Carney....
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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "Because that worked so well for Carney....'"
at least they tried with Carney i.e. they wanted to keep him, despite numerous indiscretions.
With this lad, it was 1 mistake and out of the door - leading to the assumption that they didnt want to keep him, because he wasnt that good.
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| Quote: EHW "at least they tried with Carney i.e. they wanted to keep him, despite numerous indiscretions.
With this lad, it was 1 mistake and out of the door - leading to the assumption that they didnt want to keep him, because he wasnt that good.'"
I agree they tried harder because of how good he was, be Gelling was part of that group of young players who were an absolute disgrace and caused problem after problem. Quite alot of them needed to go regardless of how good they were. And it wasnt just one mistake, despite what you may have read.
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| We're also basically funding the Welsh Rugby League now.
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| typical saddend making stuff up again? lets emphasise on the word "abuse" so wigan have lost alot of senior players in the last two season's no doubt freeing up alot of cap space and we sign 3 young welsh lads with alot of potential and give charnley a new improved deal and sam tomkins the best english back in superleague. i think every one would agree this has happend and its a FACT not a rumour! well in that case no body should be in superleague as every off season every club is ABUSING the salary cap. so saddend how are wigan actually abusing the salary cap any different from the likes of i dont know let say hull fc or even st helens?
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Makes me wonder why you chose to make it up then? Especially as you seemed to missed the most pertinent point about cost.
Hmmm....'"
When I read the quote, I thought the most pertinent bit was about giving young English players an opportunity. I think that's more important than how much Wigan are paying middle-grade overseas players. Let's hope this doesn't stop any young English players from being given their opportunity from an England point of view.
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| Quote: nathanwood7 "When I read the quote, I thought the most pertinent bit was about giving young English players an opportunity. I think that's more important than how much Wigan are paying middle-grade overseas players. Let's hope this doesn't stop any young English players from being given their opportunity from an England point of view.'"
Last time I looked it was a rumour in the Sun, so unless that is now the official website for Wigan RL I'd say you're jumping the gun a bit to start being selective about quotes, especially when the selective bit was made-up in the first place.
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| Quote: dubairl "typical saddend making stuff up again? lets emphasise on the word "abuse" so wigan have lost alot of senior players in the last two season's no doubt freeing up alot of cap space and we sign 3 young welsh lads with alot of potential and give charnley a new improved deal and sam tomkins the best english back in superleague. i think every one would agree this has happend and its a FACT not a rumour! well in that case no body should be in superleague as every off season every club is ABUSING the salary cap. so saddend how are wigan actually abusing the salary cap any different from the likes of i dont know let say hull fc or even st helens?'"
Because those other sides haven't applied for cap changes.
Wigan demanded cap changes supposidly to keep English players in the game. They were given £100k of allowances based on players provided to the England Elite players list. They then spent all of said allowance on 5 players, a total of 0 of which are eligible for England selection.
Do you not see something where I'm coming from?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Because those other sides haven't applied for cap changes.
Wigan demanded cap changes supposidly to keep English players in the game. They were given £100k of allowances based on players provided to the England Elite players list. They then spent all of said allowance on 5 players, a total of 0 of which are eligible for England selection.
Do you not see something where I'm coming from?'"
you are aware that these 4 players (not 5 unless the Sun counts as official confirmation) were signed before the cap increase and before Sams new deal? So you dont have a point. If Saints want to use it they can, like I said before if this was done earlier maybe Eastmond could still be in our game. I know you like to make stuff up, but the cap space from these FOUR new players didnt come from the extra allowance it came from the freed up space from players leaving.
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