The Challenge Cup final shown really put an end to the argument for bringing back contested scrums. Messy would be putting it nicely.

But other than that a really good set of programs.

I cant seem to get the other documentary on iplayer....really wanna see it now

That was Rugby League Porn last night, as much as we criticise the Beeb you can't fault them for this, dedicating a channel to the Greatest Game, nice one.

Waring was the 60s/70s version of Stevo.

In 20 years time they'll probably make a similar programme about Stevo. Highlighting his early days as a very good player, his ambition and foresight in moving to aus, his transition from player to journalist, his return to GB in the 90's to pioneer a bold new approach to RL broadcasting (contrasting it to the beeb's amateurish coverage featuring Waring and French), the way he single handedly saved the game in 1995 by pushing through the switch to summer rugby. He'll be portayed as being almost universally popular apart from with a few petty, small minded purists.

They might also say...

"Stevo also single-handily saved the monologue through his habit of being asked a question by Eddie Hemmings in front of one camera, and then staring into a totally different camera to answer, interspersed with ludicrously-overblown montages of Matt King and Kevin Sinfield".

One thing was VERY obvious from the Eddie waring documentary

He could see where the game could go and how it could be developed.

The people running the clubs and the RL council couldn't , wouldn't, didn't.

Has anything REALLY changed?

Anyone who would seriously consider going back to the RFL being run as it was in the days of Fallowfield and Oxley needs their bumps feeling.

I watched the Eddie Waring documentry last night and I have to say its arguably the best TV programme I have ever watched. I watched it in total silence and it was fantastic, very nostalgic and also very sad.

I was almost tearful at the end. He was a great character and seemed like a true Gent.

Did the 1895 club not realise how hurtful thier actions were?

I highly recommend the documentary to everyone who hasnt seen it.

I don't think the 1895 Club was a personal attack, they just wanted Rugby better represented on the BBC. I don't think its that much different to how we all discuss on here how much we dislike the BBC coverage nowadays or how much Stevo annoys us or how biased newspapers are towards Union.

I also question how much influence the 1895 Club had on the decision for Waring to retire. An RFL report did suggest that Waring might not be the best choice anymore and, yes, the 1895 Club did lobby the BBC. But, it was those close him at the BBC that eventually persuaded to retire and if anything I would imagine it had more to do with his increasingly ill health.

It might sound a little cynical of me, but I think for a better story arc for the documentary the producers might have embellished the effect of the 1895 Club a little. But, then again, what do I know? I wasn't around then and I didn't work at the BBC. We'll never really know entirely what happened, but we have a better understanding of a true Rugby League Great.

Always impressed by his canny abilities at Dewsbury.

It's STILL being run that way!"!!

Perhaps now it is the other way round, and the Maurice Lindsay's/Nigel Wood's etc. were/are the ones trying to push forward, and the old clubs and supporters and trying to hold back.

perhaps your right.if you are is it not time the likes of cas,wakey salford,hkr,giants etc stepped aside and allowed the big clubs and the non heartland clubs to go there own way?