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| Quote: Bilko "Maybe I would say it as a Wigan fan but I think the quality in the league is dire and I think this is reflected by the standard of the national team.
Wigan have been average at best for the last two seasons in my view but yet FACT IS at the end of the play offs we have been nearest behind Saints and Leeds at winning the Grand Final. That says it all to me - if I think we have been average what does that make the rest of the league?
We still have far too many overseas players, most of which I think offer nothing bar the exceptions of rare gems like Michael Dobson and Matt Gidley and I agree with the post by "Judderman". I too cannot remember a classic game from this season that I've seen on Sky.
Maybe it's just me but the league seems to have gone more power and less skill and this does not make for as entertaining a game as say 5/6 years ago.
Of course Hull KR fans will think different, its a generation since they were top of the table but for me compared to 5/6 years a go the league the quality is not the same.'" Check which teams fans are happy with it fella it aint just us
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| Quote: fcimp "You're wrong, the games are more competitive these days, but at the expense of quality, the standard of rugby these days is definately worse than it was 5 years ago. Some people could argue that the salary cap is working.'"
I’d rather watch the Rhinos team of five years ago than this one.
Leeds Rhinos 2004 was without the best attacking rugby super league has ever witness.
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| So in conclusion Leeds (The 1 of the current big 2 too be spluttering with a possbility to not be 1st or 2nd), FC (Awful this year even though their fans think they should get/deserve more ) and Wigan (Think they are gods gift but find themselves outside the playoffs AGAIN ) fans dont like it but almost everybody else does.
Go figure
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| Quote: Roverswall "So in conclusion Leeds (The 1 of the current big 2 too be spluttering with a possbility to not be 1st or 2nd), FC (Awful this year even though their fans think they should get/deserve more
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "I’d rather watch the Rhinos team of five years ago than this one.
Leeds Rhinos 2004 was without the best attacking rugby super league has ever witness.'"
So it's Leeds letting the competition down then?
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| Quote: fcimp "You're wrong, the games are more competitive these days, but at the expense of quality, the standard of rugby these days is definately worse than it was 5 years ago. Some people could argue that the salary cap is working.'"
Around that time I didn't have a job so didn't go to any games or have Sky so can't comment on what it was like. Would you say that the quality is better or worse than what it was when Hull first joined Super League.
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| Quote: Red Red Robin "Around that time I didn't have a job so didn't go to any games or have Sky so can't comment on what it was like. Would you say that the quality is better or worse than what it was when Hull first joined Super League.'" Hard to remember, it's certainly peaked, though.
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| Top of the league, in the semi of the challenge cup and wigan are a laughing stock as usual
Im loving super league,
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| No. The salary cap doesn't seem to be working in the way we'd hoped as it seems teams are going backwards almost across the board rather than going forward. Leeds and Saints are not as strong as they were two years ago because of a lack of competition. Bradford, FC, Wigan, Warrington and Catalans are all going backwards and as predicted the two new teams are propping up the table. The 'Kear Magic' has ran out just like it always does. Huddersfield are having the decent season they seem to every couple of years before they'll slide back down again. The only real bright spot is Hull KR but I think their improvement has as much to do with the other teams stagnating/going into reverse as it does them making great leaps.
Huddersfield and Hull KR are the only teams to make substantial progress off the pitch in the past year and that's on the back of a giveaway and glory-hunting now they're beating FC again. There's still much talk but little action on the stadium front (yes Salford, Cas, Wakey, Bradford that means you).
This season has seen some of the dullest and least skillful RL I've seen in SL since it started (even Eddie & Stevo seem to have reined in the 'Best SL ever' guff they normally spout) and we're still a good decade behind the NRL in every respect.
There are no 'must-see' Aussies over here at the minute and no real 'wow' players. The only positive point is that there are some good British prospects coming through at the minute but few if any honestly match up to their NRL counterparts.
All in all no I'm not happy with Super League at the minute because to be frank it's completely boring.
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| Quote: Diavolo Rosso "No. The salary cap doesn't seem to be working in the way we'd hoped as it seems teams are going backwards almost across the board rather than going forward. Leeds and Saints are not as strong as they were two years ago because of a lack of competition. Bradford, FC, Wigan, Warrington and Catalans are all going backwards and as predicted the two new teams are propping up the table. The 'Kear Magic' has ran out just like it always does. Huddersfield are having the decent season they seem to every couple of years before they'll slide back down again. The only real bright spot is Hull KR but I think their improvement has as much to do with the other teams stagnating/going into reverse as it does them making great leaps.
Huddersfield and Hull KR are the only teams to make substantial progress off the pitch in the past year and that's on the back of a giveaway and glory-hunting now they're beating FC again. There's still much talk but little action on the stadium front (yes Salford, Cas, Wakey, Bradford that means you).
This season has seen some of the dullest and least skillful RL I've seen in SL since it started (even Eddie & Stevo seem to have reined in the 'Best SL ever' guff they normally spout) and we're still a good decade behind the NRL in every respect.
There are no 'must-see' Aussies over here at the minute and no real 'wow' players. The only positive point is that there are some good British prospects coming through at the minute but few if any honestly match up to their NRL counterparts.
All in all no I'm not happy with Super League at the minute because to be frank it's completely boring.'"
What is that supposed to mean?
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| I'm happy.
For me, the most important aspect of the salary cap is not to even the competition, but to stop clubs sending themselves bust striving for success.
Regarding playing standard, I would suggest that many of the top end clubs could bemoan a lack of star talent in their squad campare to 6-7 years ago, but what it means is that our coaches are having to take the players they've got and concetrate on coaching them to the top of their game.
Whilst we may not have the star players, teams such as huddersfield are showing what a proffessional, workmanlike gameplan can accomplish when executed. I would also say that the slight void created by a gradually decreasing number of overpaid foreigners is seeing a larger number of promising british youngsters get their chance. I reckon in 3-4 years, we'll have a better depth of quality players to pick for England than we do currently.
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| Saints are top and Wigan are 10th. Seems right to me.
SL is struggling though, it's being ignored by the media and has been swamped by club Union. As mentioned in the other thread I don't think the format of the competition is at all conducive to putting any effort in for a lot of the teams, which results in the stale and boring competition we have at the moment.
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| Quote: Saddened! "SL is struggling though, it's being ignored by the media'" Nothing new there, then.
Quote: Saddened! " and has been swamped by club Union. '" Club RU isn't having a great time itself. The clubs are under a lot of financial pressure having to carry a larger squad and now having to compete with the cashed up french clubs.
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| "Rugby league? Does that even have its own tab on the BBC sports website, or is it in other sports?"
Said my mate on saturday.
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| Quote: roversmad "What is that supposed to mean?'"
Huddersfield.
Quote: roversmad "SL is struggling though, it's being ignored by the media and has been swamped by club Union.'"
That's another sign all is not well. Union has gone from being behind us to being well in front without any real improvement in the entertainment on offer. They sold out the Millenium Stadium and Crowe Park for two semi-finals ... it has been a few years since we sold out Old Trafford for the Grand Final.
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