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Quote: dally messenger "thats the thing about being logical. it exposes all these holes in peoples arguments'"


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Let's look for the logic...

NRL should add another club in NSW (where 10 of the 16 clubs are from) and QLD (where 3 of the remaining 6 are from). They should not add expansion clubs in WA (where there are no clubs) or NZ (where there is only 1) as they are not ready yet, despite only having 3 clubs outside QLD and NSW (and ACT is pretty much NSW anyway, so 2).

Then...

SL should only add expansion clubs, despite already having 3 (as you consider Catalans expansion). They must reduce Yorkshire clubs, despite having less Yorkshire clubs in SL than NSW clubs in NRL). And Cumbria would not be expansion, despite no SL clubs being there.

7/14 Yorkshire teams (too many) vs 10/16 NSW teams (not enough)
3/14 non-northern regions teams (need more) vs 2/16 non-eastern states teams (too early)
0 Cumbrian teams (heartlands) vs 0 Central Coast teams (expansion)

Your argument is the equivilant of a sieve, i.e. many holes.

Now, could somebody kindly copy and paste my post and repost it themselves (no reference to me) and see if dally replies to it. Although he won't because he can't argue a point.

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Quote: dally messenger "why is calling someone a flat capper so derogatory?

if the cap fits?

and i most certainly aint trolling. if i can make my point at the same time as take the mickey out of people i think are grossly biased ill do so.

im all in favour of expansion

i was very happy when LEs Cats came into SL. unlike certain people on here, i didnt have the degree of confidence they had about their success. when they finished last and people said that there were large debts and players werent being paid, i worried. but apparently these same people who said that always had confidence.

i was very happy when CC were admitted, though am a little worried about how its turning out. but then again there are clubs like leigh, wakey and salford who have disappointed me even more'"


Let's put things in perspective. Wakey and Salford have run down stadiums but they do at least have a stadium, Leigh has a wonderfully rectangular one.

Crusaders not only don't own a stadium, they don't even know where they will be playing their games which are only a few months away.

That's a whole new order of disappointment.

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and if toulose get into SL ill be over the moon'"


It's not if it is "when".

Toulouse are the Widnes of French rugby; twice passed over (somewhat unfairly) for SL. Once to Catalans (although tbf that seems to have worked out) and once to Crusaders* (which seemingly has not). I might be wrong but they may well have bidded for the slot given to PSG as well.

*I don't think 2009 was the right time for them but most people seemed to think that if you followed the criteria to the letter they would have been given a B rating.

They have all the off-field stuff right - stadium, finances and supporters and this is harder to get right than the on-field stuff. When they get a decent team together, they will be in.

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Quote: Hedgehog King "Let's put things in perspective. Wakey and Salford have run down stadiums but they do at least have a stadium, Leigh has a wonderfully rectangular one.

Crusaders not only don't own a stadium, they don't even know where they will be playing their games which are only a few months away.

That's a whole new order of disappointment.'"

That's another thing I missed.

No ground (disappointing) vs crap (chuck them out)


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It's not if it is "when".

Toulouse are the Widnes of French rugby; twice passed over (somewhat unfairly) for SL. Once to Catalans (although tbf that seems to have worked out) and once to Crusaders* (which seemingly has not). I might be wrong but they may well have bidded for the slot given to PSG as well.

*I don't think 2009 was the right time for them but most people seemed to think that if you followed the criteria to the letter they would have been given a B rating.

They have all the off-field stuff right - stadium, finances and supporters and this is harder to get right than the on-field stuff. When they get a decent team together, they will be in.'"

Yeah, they were originally proposed alongside Paris at the start of the SL era, but that would have required the proposed mergers. Basically, had the powers that be gone for the logical choice in 1996 instead of the one that had the most potential and sounded the best in the media, Toulouse could have been in their 15th SL now.

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Quote: a.n Other "So you support that a team from PNG or Perth should be the next two teams in the NRL then, Before and other teams on the east coast of Australia?'"


yes im in favour of the nrl being expanded to all those places.

thats what being an expansionist means.

different people have different views as to which offers the best potential for expansion.

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Quote: Hedgehog King "Let's put things in perspective. Wakey and Salford have run down stadiums but they do at least have a stadium, Leigh has a wonderfully rectangular one.

Crusaders not only don't own a stadium, they don't even know where they will be playing their games which are only a few months away.

That's a whole new order of disappointment.



It's not if it is "when".

Toulouse are the Widnes of French rugby; twice passed over (somewhat unfairly) for SL. Once to Catalans (although tbf that seems to have worked out) and once to Crusaders* (which seemingly has not). I might be wrong but they may well have bidded for the slot given to PSG as well.

*I don't think 2009 was the right time for them but most people seemed to think that if you followed the criteria to the letter they would have been given a B rating.

They have all the off-field stuff right - stadium, finances and supporters and this is harder to get right than the on-field stuff. When they get a decent team together, they will be in.'"


hey im happy on your comments on toulose. they do deserve a SL spot most certainly

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Quote: Starbug "On the 2 visits to Bridgend and the 2 Celtic visits to Leigh I spoke to most of their fans , How many have you spoken to ?

On the 2 visits to Bridgend I spoke to lots of people [ not fans ] who did not even know that a RL club existed in Bridgend and even the ones that did were not very complimentary of Mr Samuels and his history with the RU club , How many people in Bridgend have you spoken to ?

I also personnally know some of the players and have spoken to the management on occaision as well , how many of them have you spoken to ?

HTH'"


wow, seriously offer yourself to the RFL next time teh franchising decisions are made

youll save them a lot of money

plus thats the only way leigh have a chance of getting in

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Quote: Starbug "Unlikely considering Football is the dominant code in 80 % of the world

RL is the dominant code in Sydney


Not much room for expansion then is there by your reckoning'"


?

there are lots of places in australia that arent sydney


heck theres lots of places in nsw that arent sydney

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Quote: Starbug "Why who have you spoken to , to know what is happening at the Crusaders ?

Or is the sum total of your knowledge from this MB ?'"


i spoke to a welsh person in sydney the other day. actually it was 2 of them.

if i can find 3 more my reseach will be as good as yours.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "RL is the dominant football code in sydney by a long, long way.

is RL the dominant football code by a similar margin in yorkshire?

hell no'"


So all means the same as majority in australia?

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "?

there are lots of places in australia that arent sydney


heck theres lots of places in nsw that arent sydney'"


And where in australia apart from sydney is rl the dominant sport?

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Quote: pyeman "So all means the same as majority in australia?'"


that might pass for english in cas, but not in sydney.

get someone to help you with what you are trying to say.

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Quote: pyeman "And where in australia apart from sydney is rl the dominant sport?'"



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you cant be THAT ignorant can you?

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Quote: dally messenger "that might pass for english in cas, but not in sydney.'"


Then I suggest you learn the language.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "that might pass for english in cas, but not in sydney.

get someone to help you with what you are trying to say.'"


As the tb has said that is perfectly fine english (apart from the grammar and i doubt even you would be so hypocritical that you would critiscise someones grammar whilst using poor grammar, or would you?) so i will just assume your to stupid to read.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "

Thats a rather long winded way of saying nowhere icon_lol.gif

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