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This shouldn't even be a debate. Irish are not British. The team should be called British & Irish Lions.

There should be no national anthem either. Whether there is an Irish player or not would be absurd to have a team which claims to represent Ireland yet has an anthem singing about protecting the English Queen.

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The union Lions don’t have a national anthem so I see no issue with us not having one either if it’s an issue, is it an issue? GB have played umpteen times in the past with Scots, Welsh, English and Irish in the team. As far as I know in over 100 years no player has taken issue with the anthem (don’t sing it if you don’t want) or the colour of the shirt (unless it was that awful 90s away kit that was like an explosion in a paint factory). If they don’t want to play for Great Britain then that’s up to them. If players demand that the anthem is dropped then we just follow the union precedent.

The arguments over the colour of the jersey are a bit OTT. The union Lions play in an all red shirt yet I see nobody protesting that it’s Wales-centric.

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Quote: Bullseye "The union Lions play in an all red shirt yet I see nobody protesting that it’s Wales-centric.'"


That's not a great example really. The RU Lions have red shirts for Wales, white shorts for England, navy blue socks for Scotland, with green trim for Ireland. People understand that you have to have some colours that are more prominent than others - unless you want a stripey monstrosity of a kit - but at least the RU Lions have made a deliberate attempt to represent everyone.

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Quote: Muggins "That's not a great example really. The RU Lions have red shirts for Wales, white shorts for England, navy blue socks for Scotland, with green trim for Ireland. People understand that you have to have some colours that are more prominent than others - unless you want a stripey monstrosity of a kit - but at least the RU Lions have made a deliberate attempt to represent everyone.'"


Are you sure that's right?

I'm surprised if that way of splitting the kit was agreed by the home nations.

Who told the Irish "Right lads you get to have a bit of green trim on the top of the socks!"??

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Get rid of the Irish tag for me, it was only ever made that way so we could play Carney. It’s not like Ireland can/will offer much anyway..... tinpot sporting nation that has never achieved anything of note.

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "Get rid of the Irish tag for me, it was only ever made that way so we could play Carney. It’s not like Ireland can/will offer much anyway..... tinpot sporting nation that has never achieved anything of note.'"


Nothing like Rugby League fans to be close minded.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Nothing like Rugby League fans to be close minded.'"


Agree with what I think or your closed minded. Welcome to modern day GB.

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Is that the official answer you'd give if asked by the press when the shirt is unveiled?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Bullseye "The union Lions play in an all red shirt yet I see nobody protesting that it’s Wales-centric.'"

Blue and Green socks, white shorts.....but unlike league, they concentrate othe disliking the opposition rather than RL self hatred..... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: puroresu_boy "This shouldn't even be a debate. Irish are not British. The team should be called British & Irish Lions.

There should be no national anthem either. Whether there is an Irish player or not would be absurd to have a team which claims to represent Ireland yet has an anthem singing about protecting the English Queen.'"


Nonsense. When Ireland starts to include the UK then you'll have a point.

PS the current Queen Elizabeth is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and 'not' an 'English Queen'. The last Queen of England was Queen Anne.... icon_rolleyes.gif

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Que ... at_Britain
Quote: puroresu_boy "This shouldn't even be a debate. Irish are not British. The team should be called British & Irish Lions.

There should be no national anthem either. Whether there is an Irish player or not would be absurd to have a team which claims to represent Ireland yet has an anthem singing about protecting the English Queen.'"


Nonsense. When Ireland starts to include the UK then you'll have a point.

PS the current Queen Elizabeth is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and 'not' an 'English Queen'. The last Queen of England was Queen Anne.... icon_rolleyes.gif

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Que ... at_Britain


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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: RLRealist "Nonsense. When Ireland starts to include the UK hell will have frozen over.'"

accuracy Timothy......accuracy!

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Quote: Call Me God "Blue and Green socks, white shorts.....but unlike league, they concentrate othe disliking the opposition rather than RL self hatred.....
I know. If a sport ever lacked self esteem it's British RL.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Bullseye "I know. If a sport ever lacked self esteem it's British RL.'"

Agree 100% but it doesn't need to be cloaked in jingoism. Keep the Blue and Red Chevron........it's iconic and as an irishman I am proud to day I own a version of what is a great sports shirt.........but don't drape yourselves in a brexit blanket of "we're great you're not" rubbish......blue and green sox and the British isles badge and we're done......just call us the lions!

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Quote: Call Me God "Agree 100% but it doesn't need to be cloaked in jingoism. Keep the Blue and Red Chevron........it's iconic and as an irishman I am proud to day I own a version of what is a great sports shirt.........but don't drape yourselves in a brexit blanket of "we're great you're not" rubbish......blue and green sox and the British isles badge and we're done......just call us the lions!'"


What a waste of time, change an iconic near century old brand just so you and the other 3 ‘proud irishmen’ that care about rl can latch onto the the team ???

Bore off

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