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Ha ha...me too.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Warrington’s new coach doesn’t see the season out.

Looking at most of the squads there are far too many overseas players in there, it needs to get down to three or four at most if we are to develop our young players.
Also a lot of those overseas players are in pivotal positions.

Ellis ineffective? unbelievable statement.

The problem is the pool of players is so small SL has to rely on overseas players to boost the standard.

On what basis? He's making all the right noises since his arrival and definitely has a point to prove

Why do you bother? You know he is only trying to wind you up.

Correct, typical WUM.

I don't generally i just thought that one was funny. Is that ok with you?

Batchelor . You could even name Crowther he must be getting close this year, the club has invested some real time and money into the lad, unlike others they've let go after the step up.

I might not be a Hull supporter but saw plenty of him & completely agree. Obviously, he wasn't in his absolute prime but even slightly less than that he was still an awesome player and as an opposition, you were happy to see his name, not on the team sheet. The blokes work ethic, tackling and strong runs were all still there until the end. The only thing you can say is his injuries caught up with him, just like any great player.

I must admit I’d forgotten about Paea signing and that forward pack should be very good again. I’m not criticising the Hull line up, I think it’s very strong but it’s probably not quite as strong as last year imo. It will still be good enough to challenge for the lot but with a leader like Ellis in and a player in Fonua who caused all sorts of problems, I think I’d have had you as favourites for everything.

As it stands I can’t sit here and say one is a favourite out of Hull, Cas, Leeds, Saints, Wigan or Warrington. I wouldn’t rule out Wakey or even Huddersfield from making a decent run of things.

Imagine how ineffective he could have been without lifting them back to back Challenge Cups at Wembley for the first time(s) in our 152 year history.

Widnes and Salford look the weakest by some margin to me, then KR, Catalan and Wakey.

I also think Cas might struggle to stay near the top - when you look at individual players, their 17 really isn't that good, but in Powell they have a coach who absolutely gets more than the sum of its parts. The loss of Hardaker, any injury or loss of form from Gale, plus teams having a full off season to work out how to combat the free flowing, spread it wide attack of Cas will see them find 2018 much harder I think. Could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time), but I don't see Cas making the 4.

IMO It'll be Leeds, Wigan, Wire and then Saints or Hull for the top 4, probably Saints.

NO i didnt forget him he's already on the bench. I fully expect him blow SL away this season injuries permitting - young player of the year hopefully Wakefield don't give five year deals to 19 year olds very often if ever which says it all to me.