The "burn out" line is one that only Cas fans are using to try and make them ok with being dumped out of the cup. And you didn't burn out in 2014, you just weren't good enough when it came to the crunch and bottled it.

Plenty of teams recently have reached both Wembley and Old Trafford. Leeds (2015) and Wigan (2013) won both, Warrington reached both last year. Leeds and Warrington faced each other in both 2012 major finals sharing the wins and Leeds lost at Wembley in 2011 but won the Grand Final. Freshness isn't as important as experience, form and momentum. Cas are going to have two weekends off for the CC SF & F, they don't need 5 dead rubbers on top of that especially if Saints or Wigan are their playoff semi final opponents, Cas fans better be praying that neither of those finish 4th because you can see what's going to happen.

We did burn out in 2014, just because it in your head you say we didn't doesn't make it true. I watched all the cas games after wembley and was obvious we were completely shot. I'm sure people that actually watched cas on a regular basis after wembley 2014 will tell you the same. And I have actually never heard any cas fan ever say he was happy we were out of the cup. It was a tight game which Hull won because the home game gave them the edge they needed imo. Are you just making things up ??? To say Cas fans are happy we are out of the cup is absolutely ludicrous and at the same time makes you look a blatant liar, I'll take this as a compliment as people around here never used to be bothered enough to talk and make up .

Deadly honest I forgot not give an absolute poo who finishes 4th as they will be more afraid of us than we are of them weather that be saints, Wigan or Huddersfield they have to come to us and beat us for the first time in a over a year. Both Wigan and Saints (and many others) have had 50 put on them at our place and with Saints we beat them in the league with our under 12's. while I appreciate the semis are different are they that much difference ??? Not from what iv seen to be honest. If we are at our best we will blow anyone that finishes 4th off of the park it's that simple.

They also got slated the year before by bringing in players for the Middle 8's.

At least they're trailblazers at something.

Here's one for you.



I just prey it's not Cas v Leeds in the final, I'm sick of watching blow-out scores between the two.

There was a topic about 10 pages long where a Cas fan continuously said they were happy to be out the cup.
Cas at their best would beat anybody who wasn't at their best on the day. However, if it was a one off, knock out game, against either Hull or Wigan at THEIR best, then I'd put my money on Hull/Wigan. Probably also Leeds. Saints will be an interesting proposition when they finally get Barba on the pitch so I wouldn't rule them out either.
Cas fans are, in my opinion, seriously underplaying the value of big match experience and the players who've been there and done it coming to the fore on the big occasions.

FWIW I think Leeds will be going all out for the cup. If we get to the final, win or lose I'd say that will be it for the year.

Cas have easily beaten us every game this year, and if they are in form I just can't see us beating them. I could see Sts, Hull or Wigan giving them a game but not Leeds.

I may be alone but I wouldn't mind a Hull-Cas GF anyway, to guarantee a new name on the trophy. Given the way they play I'd ideally like to see Cas win because it would be nice for the most attacking team to win the competition.

So when the above poster put cas fans, he meant cas fan ??? BTW the post you refer to is ludicrous every club should be aiming to win every trophy !!!

Maybe we are or maybe your overplaying that factor with the form and confidence seaping through the club at the moment. I guess nodoby will be proven right until October !!!

I made a point of arguing in that thread that I was gutted we'd been knocked out of the cup and it wasn't a positive at all, yet Cas fans are happy to not win the cup because of 1 poster . It wasn't like hull thrashed us, it was 4 tries each! In 25 games in league at cup this season only 1 side has scored more tries then us , funnily enough hull and we still won the game! Cas have players who have played on a big stage before, hardaker numerous finals, Shenton cup and grand final, Webster played internationals / cup final, Lynch played in finals, McShane played in finals involving leeds, plus the rest of the Cas squad who were involved in the 2014 final will have learnt heaps from the occasion.

Hull have played in as many finals as Cas in the last 3 years. Would Leeds young players who didn't feature pre 2015 be able to live up to that of their predecessors? Will wigan even finish 4th ?

So much water to pass under the bridge yet but so many people are writing off Cas based on not much really. We shall see.

I was surprised when I looked how few players Cas have from the CCF in 2014; only 5 players from that 17 now in their team compared to Leeds' 10. Quite a turnover in players that in 3 years, more credit should go to them for being able to assemble a new-ish team that's gelled quickly.

With 6 points between 3rd and 8th, any club which puts a run together can make the semi finals and look likely to be playing Cas or Leeds.
You have to fancy the clubs that have been there before to win the GF, even if we get a couple of "newbies" in the semis.
It will all swing on whether Saints and/or Wigan can make the top 4 but, right now, anything is possible, apart from Cas winning the LLS, which is a given.

As for the middle 8's, unless there are some major shocks, it looks like Widnes v KR in the MPG.

Leigh to go down hopefully, and a bonus if Widnes go down with em.

I think a bit of paranoia is creeping in.
You are nailed on for the LLS, nailed on and fwiw, I tipped Cas to do just that at the start of the season.
To pretend that clubs that have been there before dont have an advantage is just bravado or naivety.
How many have won at the first attempt ?