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Sam should've rested at the end of last season. The last 3 years must've taken its toll, both mentally and physically

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Quote: Superted "I think there's a two main things that are impacting the Burgess boys;

1 - They've gotten too big for their boots and stopped putting in the hard yards, they'd 'made it' in 2014 and success has gone to their heads - they seem to be more interested in taking cool selfies with their tops off and their shades on at all the hip places rather than getting their hands dirty and doing the extras in the gym/on the training ground - Props aren't meant to be the cool kids - props are meant to be salt of the earth, workers, battlers - they're too pampered away from the pitch

2 - They've all now flown the nest - they've got wives/girlfriends and more importantly kids. I think they flourished living together, being young single blokes with that natural competitiveness to be the best - you do lose a bit of that when you've a wife and kids (and cool selfies to take).'"


you saying they gone all Rocky 3 on us? they became civilised... lost the eye of the tiger? icon_lol.gif

i agree BTW.

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There's an element of that, and also the Maguire issue. He built a side - exceptionally well - based on the players he had at the time. He has seemed to really struggle since the GF win because he hasn't adapted the style of play much even without the same core of exceptional players. Like most GF winning teams they have paid too much to a bunch of players who were average and dragged up by the stars (not to mention huge dollars to get Burgess back), so are also going to find it will take a long time to up the quality across the field.

Overall you'd have to say Maguire and Hasler look like coaches who haven'tworked out a Plan B for when things aren't going well. Hasler's in even worse trouble because he hasn't sorted the deficiencies at halfback which have been there right through his tenure at the Dogs.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "There's an element of that, and also the Maguire issue. He built a side - exceptionally well - based on the players he had at the time. He has seemed to really struggle since the GF win because he hasn't adapted the style of play much even without the same core of exceptional players. Like most GF winning teams they have paid too much to a bunch of players who were average and dragged up by the stars (not to mention huge dollars to get Burgess back), so are also going to find it will take a long time to up the quality across the field.

Overall you'd have to say Maguire and Hasler look like coaches who haven'tworked out a Plan B for when things aren't going well. Hasler's in even worse trouble because he hasn't sorted the deficiencies at halfback which have been there right through his tenure at the Dogs.'"


I don't just think it's at H/B where they struggle, I'd be tempted to say they've got the worst spine in the league. Although it looks like they're after Wests' 'Big Four'

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Quote: Baxendale "I don't just think it's at H/B where they struggle, I'd be tempted to say they've got the worst spine in the league. Although it looks like they're after Wests' 'Big Four''"


Canterbury- Bankstown have a very good Gambian scrum half named Moses Mbye. The current Canterbury-Bankstown hooker, a Lebanese named Michael Lichaa, is not bad, though obviously not as good as the other famous Lebanese hooker, Robert Farah, or the former club hooker Michael Ennis (now retired from playing). Lebanon, the most liberal nation-state in the Middle East, is famous for its hookers. Both Mbye and Lichaa attract fans from their respective ethnic communities, which raises the club's home game gate revenues. But these two players also add something to the team's talent pool.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Canterbury- Bankstown have a very good Gambian scrum half named Moses Mbye. The current Canterbury-Bankstown hooker, a Lebanese named Michael Lichaa, is not bad, though obviously not as good as the other famous Lebanese hooker, Robert Farah, or the former club hooker Michael Ennis (now retired from playing). Lebanon, the most liberal nation-state in the Middle East, is famous for its hookers. Both Mbye and Lichaa attract fans from their respective ethnic communities, which raises the club's home game gate revenues. But these two players also add something to the team's talent pool.'"


Correct Lichaa is not bad... he's terrible, made a big error getting rid of Cook! Mbye is not a scrum half, he looked ok at standoff alongside Hodgkinson but he needs an organiser alongside him.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "you saying they gone all Rocky 3 on us? they became civilised... lost the eye of the tiger?
You may have something there! I was hugely disappointed by Sam Burgess at last years 4 nations, he needs his aggression and drive back

IMO they should take his captaincy off him and/or start him on the bench in the first game of the world cup against Aus, just to light a fire under his belly

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A masterclass from Widdop's boot today.
The thirty yard floating pass to put his winger in wasn't bad either.
Small blemish with the try conceded but the Dragons were never losing that game.

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Agree about widdop today, he has the team ticking around him very very.

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That was the best I've seen Widdopp play in ages. As a plus Tom and Sam played pretty well in a well-beaten Souths side as well.

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As I've rarely got much positive to say about Widdop, it's only fair I give him some credit on hid last couple of performances. He was very good this weekend, and finally appears to be playing with his eyes up and playing what's in front of him, rather than just sticking to a boring structure relentlessly even when it's not working.
Hopefully the improvements can keep coming and he can be the half back England need.

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As I've rarely got much positive to say about Widdop, it's only fair I give him some credit on hid last couple of performances. He was very good this weekend, and finally appears to be playing with his eyes up and playing what's in front of him, rather than just sticking to a boring structure relentlessly even when it's not working.
Hopefully the improvements can keep coming and he can be the half back England need.

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Quote: Superted "As I've rarely got much positive to say about Widdop, it's only fair I give him some credit on hid last couple of performances. He was very good this weekend, and finally appears to be playing with his eyes up and playing what's in front of him, rather than just sticking to a boring structure relentlessly even when it's not working.
Hopefully the improvements can keep coming and he can be the half back England need.'"


Yes, this. He has been very good in the last few games.

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