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Quote: Buggo "That is the same method that all figures like these are based on.
Its a broad based number of viewers and they extrapolate the figures.
All Political Polls are done in the same way.
Do you think they can ask the 4 million viewers what they were watching and they all say "yes we were watching"?
Sponsors take the Oztam figures realistic enough to base their financial investments on.
That should be enough.'"
3,500 homes in AUSTRALIA.
Yet the last census shows that there are 1,720,333 private dwellings in the greater Sydney region alone.
As I said, it's the way it is. It's what they have. If you believe that 1 in 5 people in Australia watched it. Then that's up to you. Good luck with that. Just also remember that in those 3,500 Oztam homes, you only need to be on a channel for several minutes and not a whole programme to be regarded as having viewed it. So they can give far reaching, roughly based averages to advertisers. And as shown previously Oztam say they are ESTIMATES. Yet the journalists version doesn't point that out.
State of Origin I was a ratings winner for the NRL with the game posting a record audience for an opening game of the series as 4.053 million viewers tuned in around Australia.
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z33QwvM9DV
www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/census ... stat/1GSYD |
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Quote: Buggo "That is the same method that all figures like these are based on.
Its a broad based number of viewers and they extrapolate the figures.
All Political Polls are done in the same way.
Do you think they can ask the 4 million viewers what they were watching and they all say "yes we were watching"?
Sponsors take the Oztam figures realistic enough to base their financial investments on.
That should be enough.'"
3,500 homes in AUSTRALIA.
Yet the last census shows that there are 1,720,333 private dwellings in the greater Sydney region alone.
As I said, it's the way it is. It's what they have. If you believe that 1 in 5 people in Australia watched it. Then that's up to you. Good luck with that. Just also remember that in those 3,500 Oztam homes, you only need to be on a channel for several minutes and not a whole programme to be regarded as having viewed it. So they can give far reaching, roughly based averages to advertisers. And as shown previously Oztam say they are ESTIMATES. Yet the journalists version doesn't point that out.
State of Origin I was a ratings winner for the NRL with the game posting a record audience for an opening game of the series as 4.053 million viewers tuned in around Australia.
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z33QwvM9DV
www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/census ... stat/1GSYD | |
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I've always said its bullox. 500 boxes in Perth for 2mill. When you get to small numbers it is nonsense. For example according to oztam NRL rates around 25k a game on Friday night in Perth. Now one box equals about 4000 people. I know at least 20 households of my friends and family who watch NRL and don't have a box. If just half of them happened to be chosen NRL ratings would be over doubled.
It might be more accurate for larger samples but in states like WA it isn't close IMO.
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Anyway what a game it was watched by millions of people all over the world
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: j.c "Anyway what a game it was watched by millions of people all over the world'"
Point of Order.
90k in NZ and no other accountable ratings anywhere, so it was watched by 4 million in Australia but nowhere else was it watched by anything like "millions".....Premier TV still only have 6k in the UK.......it's unlikely it was seen "live" by more than 5 million globally. |
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| Quote: JB Down Under "I've always said its bullox. 500 boxes in Perth for 2mill. When you get to small numbers it is nonsense. For example according to oztam NRL rates around 25k a game on Friday night in Perth. Now one box equals about 4000 people. I know at least 20 households of my friends and family who watch NRL and don't have a box. If just half of them happened to be chosen NRL ratings would be over doubled.
It might be more accurate for larger samples but in states like WA it isn't close IMO.'"
950 in Sydney; 900 in Melbourne; 650 in Brisbane; 500 in Adelaide; 500 in Perth.
Oztam is jointly owned by channels 7, 9 and 10. |
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I guess some we are attempting to talk the game up and report the great ratings as a positive thing.
It seems its all a load of rubbish based on dodgy figures by a corrupt auditor owned by the TV channels.
Rugby League fans are their own worst enemy.
I am not sure why Gutterfax posts here beyond being vindictive about not getting a Job with the English Rugby League some time ago, and living in a backwater that no fans in Australia really cares about.
Rooster Booster has a Job in the NRL and I am not sure if its Jeans description of water carrier for the Newtown Jets but he never seems happy and takes every opportunity to lay the boot into his Employers/League/Country of residence.
How can that be a healthy outlook with fans like these?
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I would love to hear your justification (regression analysis) to how 3500 makes a good sample size of what 20,000,000 ![]()
Ok, fair enough.
Do you account for 3500 to be the number representing households, rather than individuals? Where you could safely assume the average household contains at least 2 people?
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| Quote: CGD "Ok, fair enough.
Do you account for 3500 to be the number representing households, rather than individuals? Where you could safely assume the average household contains at least 2 people?'"
Average household in Australia ~ 2.6 still isn't close enough to get within the 98-99% sigma level - but as I say, still more than enough to get into the 98-69% standard , which is all that really matters with statistics!
That's not to say these still aren't great (projected  ) figures for origin I - long may it continue... |
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| Quote: Buggo "I guess some we are attempting to talk the game up and report the great ratings as a positive thing.'"
It is a positive thing. The ratings system is open to interpretation.
Quote: Buggo "It seems its all a load of rubbish based on dodgy figures by a corrupt auditor owned by the TV channels.'"
No-one has said anything about being corrupt.
Quote: Buggo "Rooster Booster has a Job in the NRL and I am not sure if its Jeans description of water carrier for the Newtown Jets but he never seems happy and takes every opportunity to lay the boot into his Employers/League/Country of residence.
How can that be a healthy outlook with fans like these?'"
You listen to Jean? Besides, I don't lay my boot into my employers, nor Rugby League, nor Australia itself when I point out that TV ratings are ESTIMATES and are not accurate. You are way off the mark because you don't like what you read. |
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "It is a positive thing. The ratings system is open to interpretation.
No-one has said anything about being corrupt.
You listen to Jean? Besides, I don't lay my boot into my employers, nor Rugby League, nor Australia itself when I point out that TV ratings are ESTIMATES and are not accurate. You are way off the mark because you don't like what you read.'"
What is your role in the Game? you always talk as if you are right up there and have inside knowledge of Coaching and training methods.
What are your credentials without being specific of course. |
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| Quote: Buggo "What is your role in the Game? you always talk as if you are right up there and have inside knowledge of Coaching and training methods.'"
No I don't, move on. |
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Buggo "What is your role in the Game? you always talk as if you are right up there and have inside knowledge of Coaching and training methods.
What are your credentials without being specific of course.'"
Non-specific credentials? Hmmmmm |
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| Quote: gutterfax "Non-specific credentials? Hmmmmm'"
I thought Rooster may want to say he was a Coach or Administrator at some level but not want to provide the Clubs name or details as most people rightly prefer to be anonymous on the internet.
I did not realise you were involved in my comments to him. |
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Buggo "I thought Rooster may want to say he was a Coach or Administrator at some level but not want to provide the Clubs name or details as most people rightly prefer to be anonymous on the internet.
I did not realise you were involved in my comments to him.'"
His non-specific credentials have no bearing on his point of view regarding tv ratings collation. As for my role in "your comments".....either get a room or PM him if you want privacy.......in open water you are fair game and your antagonistic approach is there for all to see. So speaks an expert! |
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