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| Quote: JB Down Under "Ok lets look at those specific games shall we
Dogs v Wests Rd1 Monday night this season Att 26,737
Previous seasons: 2010 Fri night 11,837 2009 Sun afternoon 25,622
Sths V St;s Rd6 Monday night this season Att 22,771
Previous seasons: 2010 Fri night 22,238 2009 Sat afternoon 19,218
So there you go, once again the FACTS show that playing those fixtures on a Monday night not only did not cause them to lose money but actually brought in BIGGER crowds! Damn these things called Facts for making CEO's look like they are clearly peddling other agendas!
Thanks JB, other variables aside, you appear to be correct.
You're also inadvertently proving that NRL CEOs are liars (when it comes to attendances in particular). I reckon you should highlight this to the media!!!
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1883.jpg Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| RB, don't you think it is a classic case of doing business via the media. Whine like feck about MNF costing big shillings in the full knowledge it is a Pay TV golden goose and one the TV companies will break their back trying to keep.
I'll bet Gallop was grinning ear-to-ear when he saw these articles.
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41290_1303876116.jpg [quote="Harrigan":r7yu7j1g]I have no problem with any bagging of the NRL. As you say, it has it's shortcomings and they should be highlighted. [/quote:r7yu7j1g]
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| The slow march towards rugby league's independent commission has stalled negotiations for the NRL rights.
What's the hold up? How hard can it be to get people in place...especially when the NRL knew it was going to happen.
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "RB, don't you think it is a classic case of doing business via the media. Whine like feck about MNF costing big shillings in the full knowledge it is a Pay TV golden goose and one the TV companies will break their back trying to keep.
I'll bet Gallop was grinning ear-to-ear when he saw these articles.'"
It could well be getdown.
Thing is, NRL clubs do not like playing on a Monday. End of. Maybe they are trying to use money as an argument to get rid of it. But they won't succeed as JB points out, because they rate highly on TV and will be part of an increased TV deal.
I still suspect there are genuine concerns about attendances on Monday nights from the clubs re monies, but JB has pointed out that their comments don't appear to be 100% accurate. So they are deliberately misleading, are lying, or don't know what they're on about. It can't be the latter, surely.
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41290_1303876116.jpg [quote="Harrigan":r7yu7j1g]I have no problem with any bagging of the NRL. As you say, it has it's shortcomings and they should be highlighted. [/quote:r7yu7j1g]
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[quote="Harrigan":r7yu7j1g]Yeah, Dally has never complained at all to me... I can read [/quote:r7yu7j1g]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41290.jpg |
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| Quote: JB Down Under " Damn these things called Facts for making CEO's look like they are clearly peddling other agendas!
As has been said before, Stats/FACTS can be used to suit any argument:
In 2010 a total of 3,149,927 fans, over 192 regular season games, attended the NRL. This gives an average of 16,406.
In 2010, there were 23 games of MNF.
In total, 296,703 fans walked through the gates for MNF at an average of 12,900 a game.
The remaining 2,853,224 fans split over 169 games gives an average of 16,883 a game
So, over the 2010 season, the general result is that you lose about 4,000 fans a game when it's played on a Monday. At $45 a ticket, this adds up over a season to over $4,000,000 in lost ticket sales...or just over $250k a club. If clubs work on residual sales (beer/shirts/food) etc being the same again, then it could be argued that Souths figure of $205,000 for one game isn't that far off the mark.
The biggest losers in 2010 were Brisbane (1gm/8,546), the Roosters(2gm/16,776) and the Dogs (1gm/6,686) with the Bunnies bing the biggest winners (2gm/5,098 Increase)
BTW....How come NthQld and the Warriors didn't play Monday night footie last year
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| I wasn't aware Nrth Qld didn't play MNF last year but I do remember there CEO complaining about it due to the distance some of their fans travel.
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| 7 NRL games this year have made the list of top 15 most watched programs on Foxtel ever
4 of those games are monday night football
and im sure as the season progresses this will only increase
yeh ....nrl club CEOs really want MNF gotten rid of
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| Dally, CEOs want cash in their banks, not lazy people not bothering to go to their games. You do get that principle right?
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41290_1303876116.jpg [quote="Harrigan":r7yu7j1g]I have no problem with any bagging of the NRL. As you say, it has it's shortcomings and they should be highlighted. [/quote:r7yu7j1g]
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Dally, CEOs want cash in their banks, not lazy people not bothering to go to their games. You do get that principle right?'"
It all depends on "how much" MNF is worth as part of the TV deal?
I showed how in 2010 the clubs could argue against MNF based on the potential to lose $360k a game based on a 4k average shortfall in fans at $45 a ticket with another $45 spent on residuals.
2009 figures show:
192 regular season games, 3084,481 fans at 16,065
24 MNF games, 313, 629 fans at 13,068
168 non MFN games, 2770,852 at 16,493.
so, about 3,500 fans at $45 a ticket and $45 residual...potential for $315k a game revenue loss or $7.5 million and change a season or 7.5% of the deal...which I believe if you break down roughly and extract cash for SOO et al, is $500k a game.
Clubs (and their CEO's) can't have it both ways......without TV they wouldn't get the fanbase (sad social comment...but alas now true) and if they are required to cough up $450k a year out of ticket revenue to secure $6,000,000 a year in TV income then so be it.
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| you can only go on corresponding fixtures and reality is Sth's or Bulldogs did no worse from MNF last year.
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41290_1303876116.jpg [quote="Harrigan":r7yu7j1g]I have no problem with any bagging of the NRL. As you say, it has it's shortcomings and they should be highlighted. [/quote:r7yu7j1g]
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[quote="Harrigan":r7yu7j1g]Yeah, Dally has never complained at all to me... I can read [/quote:r7yu7j1g]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41290.jpg |
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| Quote: JB Down Under "you can only go on corresponding fixtures and reality is Sth's or Bulldogs did no worse from MNF last year.'"
as I said, mickles and muckles. The CEO's will use the figures that I did....showing that the average gate at a MNF game is 4k less than the ones played on Fri/Sat/Sun.
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| which is individually irrelevant if you only play one MNF game and your crowd is larger!
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| 3 words... Conflict of interest.
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