Yeah, and there should be absolutley no 'expection' for clubs to want to improve and compete with the likes of Wigan should there? I mean, for Huddersfield to go to Wigan and not let them go forward at will, well it just needs looking at doesn't it? It's just not right!

I don't disagree with any of that.

My argument is that it's not arrogant to expect Wigan to finish above sides such as Huddersfield when you take into account previous league table and playoff positions.

Is it arrogant or blinkered to think that your fans can't be worse because their are more of them?

I didn't say that.

I said you've more chance of a 'bad experience' as there are more supporters than most other clubs, hence why Leeds, Wigan and Hull KR are getting regulary mentioned.

Or perhaps its nothing to do with the amount its just people don't like them for whatever reason.

I can understand people having a dislike for fans of all 3 tbh, and the arrogance I encounter from a lot of Wigan fans still living in the past does give me a dislike for them in that respect.

So are you saying Wigan are allowed more bad apples because you have more fans? Not sure that's the best way to think to be honest. If that was the case, a Celtic fan could stab someone and Wigan would still be classed as worse, because there is less of them.

Anyway...

On and on about the giants...poor boy.

Worst facilities Wakey
Worst pitch Bulls
Worst fans Wigan* / HKR

* eg Hudds score a try to go 14-8 ahead with 6/7 mins to go. Before Hodgo has attempted the conversion hundreds of wigan fans are pouring out!

Facilities: Galpharm, its like a concrete windy morgue and damned expensive sorry!

Pitch : Any that has moronball played on it (So thats a lot) as they make a complete mess of the pitch and sides.

Fans: Saints/Leeds: No sense of direction only "Forward"

Wigan have got to be some of the worst supporters going.
I mean who leaves with 20 minutes to go?

Craven park for the away fans is shocking, by far the worst.

Fans. For some reason I just don't like Warrington fans!

Facilities: Wakey

Pitch : Celtic's looked bad against Saints.

Fans: Hull FC/Warrington

Why do you think that?

Alex BP - i think you have comnfirmed on this topic why Wigan fans have been named the worst by quite a few people !!

Arrogant, self-centred, blinkered, moaning gits !