5/6,000 HOME fans probably so with 3 bumper local derbies and hopefully a few others fancying making a fresh trip (ex Saints, lol) would be looking at 7-8,000 average hopefully (home gate will also rise with derbies).

I think we averaged about 6,800 in our last season in Super League. That was with us rooted to second bottom pretty much all season. I'm thinking more 7-8 thousand average to be honest.

And hopefully you will get it. I would say that away support from all clubs has been down in recent years. If you can get 5-6k home support you will be onto a very good start.

You don't have to worry mate they won't come near you in the league. They'll sign Brent Webb and Kylie Leuleuai off you so you can replace them with Ben Jones Bishop and Brad Singleton and you can go about your normal business trying to get as high as you can in the play offs and watch Widnes battle with the likes of Quins, Salford, Wakey ect for the beloved fourth from bottom spot.

They managed to sign Warringtons second team to win the NRC and then sat around knowing that because the RFL's rules which were set out were perfect for them to get into SL without having to be competitive.

Judging by the amount of Widnes fans which have posted on here they'll flood in numbers to slate me. Yes I'm a Barrow fan and our club has been run in an absolute shambles and we are blatant cheats. But as a fan I can't do anything about that I just support my club as I have done for the majority of my life. So you can slate me about that and use that in your argument but it's irrelevant and I couldn't care less.

Don't even know what your point is. You're having a go because we followed the rules?

And they didn't

More of a go at the rules rather than the club, they are a joke.

I wont have a Barrow fan lecture me about how my team has behaved recently. We stuck to the cap! A cap which was lowered to benefit teams like yours and Barrow cheated to gain an advantage over others. You can't for a second lecture any team about how they've performed. It's not irrelevant at all. You accuse us of "signing warrington's second team" (Kevin Penny constitutes a team, and let's not forget your loan signings and dual reg players), going in for rejects like Brent Webb and Leuleuai (neither are on the radar right now although there was talk of Webb a while back) and slating us because we wont be challenging for the super league title in our very first super league season. At least we will be there.

You're not making any sense. Worse than that, your team is likely to be in championship 1 next season as a result of gross misdeeds and bad management which threw the league into disrepute, ours is heading to super league because we got our professional side together. We're your polar opposites, in a good way, and we're being rewarded for that and you're not.

Now I don't want to appear lording it over Barrow fans, but you simply cannot snipe at us like that. I've got sympathy for decent fans who are paying the price for bad management but why are you personally having a go at us?

That's absolute BULL.

You had a go at US.

Of course, it would clearly have been right to award Barrow a Super League place for winning the Grand Final while cheating the salary cap. Call me old fashioned but....

Well I read your first two paragraphs of bilious untruth with great amusement, then to find out you a Barrow fan just topped it off.

What you are spouting is wilfully ignorant of the facts. I pity that tiny narrow
minded view of the world you have..

Just imagine.

Could have been an absolute disaster.

You have been linked with those two players and also Ali Lauititi, your club also has some decent young full backs knocking about but are going to be deprieved of a first team spot.

I re read the post and it did seem like I was sniping at yous but I intended it for to be at the rules. I actually wanted you to win the league this year when you went on a 10 game unbeaten streak because it wouldn't look like such a shambles from people looking from other sports when a club gets promoted from 5th.

One of the reasons for my bitterness towards your fans is because when we scored a try in the second half when we won 38-0 I was stood in the end with all the Widnes supporters because thats where I stand every game and I dont feel the need to move as RL is a family sport,I cheered and I got called an Inbred cumbrian and was told to f off, I was 14 at the time.

Your a good club with a smart businessman running it, I've been told you had one of the greatest sides ever before I was born and your fans are generally alright.

The first paragraph was, the second wasn't.

First paragraph you have been linked with all those players over various sources. You will be in the bottom 4 for the first few seasons of SL, even your own fans admit that. Second paragraph was a go at the rules and the fact that to get promoted you pretty much didn't have to do anything on the pitch after you won the 2009 NRC, shouldn't of said the bit about Warrington that probably made it seem like it was a dig at the club.

I don't have a narrow minded view of the world, your generally making that judgement off one point I have made. Judging someones view of the world is off 3 paragraphs isn't going to be an accurate judgement.