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im not talking about playing games at a soccer ground and paying rent

im talking about a soccer club have a RL club attached. like wrexham have done with crusaders more like

id rather try getting soccer fans watching league than union fans.

brentford treated the RL club with disdain eg reseeding and making them lose home games.

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Quote: gutterfax "Charlton Athletic/Brentford.....both tried and pretty much failed, so there is no basis to try it again unless there is real (long term) money behind it.

Harlequins is really the last stop for this version of Pro RL in London. As has been pointed out, the failure to put bums on seats over the last 15 years has caused this and the clubs failure to realise that it was important to raise the PROFILE of the game in the media is the single biggest disappointment.

A perfect example of this was when the Club played at Brentford and actually had a champion in a senior position at METRO......this relationship (they were once shirt sponsors) was simply left to die........I mean OK, Advertising costs can be high, but when you have someone in a position to get you coverage in a 1,000,000 circulation daily paper you look after them.......as it is, Metro in London hardly touches on League.

All the investment over the years and the revenue from jerseys/beer/food etc may as well have been p1ssed up against the wall, because if Quins aren't over a minimum average of 5k by the second half of this season then they will be on very thin ice.'"


Is there no collaboration with the union side? Does the partnership not benefit Quins RU if there are more paying speccies?

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Quote: "I am interested why Lewis has felt the need to come out with this article'"


I will tell you why because he a strategic thinker heading up the game. He understands the power of Sky and the need to expand the game for them and indirectly us.

Difficult for a road sweeper in Yorkshire and a spanner mechanic in Lancashire to understand as they seem to be able to see no further than the back playing field.

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Quote: wire-quin "I will tell you why because he a strategic thinker heading up the game. He understands the power of Sky and the need to expand the game for them and indirectly us.

Difficult for a road sweeper in Yorkshire and a spanner mechanic in Lancashire to understand as they seem to be able to see no further than the back playing field.'"
an under achieving club in london & a failed club in s.wales dont sell sky dishes.nor does a club in france playing in a comp called SL when anyone outside catalan dosn't even know what sport it is.
by the way i'm garden maintenance not a spanner machanic icon_wink.gif

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Expansion is important, but clubs that can regularly attract 10k plus crowds is just, if not more important.

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Quote: Big Ask "Expansion is important, but clubs that can regularly attract 10k plus crowds is just, if not more important.'"



lets get heartland clubs averaging 10,000 first before we think expansion clubs should

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Quote: dally messenger "lets get heartland clubs averaging 10,000 first before we think expansion clubs should'"

I think that was kind of his point.

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Quote: dally messenger "lets get heartland clubs averaging 10,000 first before we think expansion clubs should'"



As this is a sensible post [ strange for yourself but lets not knock it ] , I'll reply

Part of the expansion argument is that clubs from new area's will be able to get bigger crowds than current non SL heartland clubs because of the lack of competition from local SL clubs , however this then creates a problem for those expansion clubs when they dont [ as in the case of London ] , as they dont have a ready made excuse

What you have to ask is , would we rather have poor performing SL expansion clubs , just for the sake of saying we are expanding the top level of the sport , or would we be better having better performing lower tier clubs ?

Some on here suggest that only by being in the top tier can these expansion clubs build themselves , then the same people suggest that lower level heartland clubs should be able to achieve similar results without being in the top tier

Double standards methinks

Every club is different and has different problems , what is certain is that at the moment most clubs are clueless at marketing themselves

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icon_smile.gif Quins are vital to the future of the game, no Quins Cats or Crusaders he top flight in then forget big blue chip sponsorship deals and future national exposure, the game will simply revert back to being a marginalised northern game. The game is doomed without a viable national presence in the SL

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Starbug, it's also the player pathways.
We need a southern club, im not quite sure Quins appears to be it

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Quote: spooneryork ", no Quins Cats or Crusaders he top flight in then forget big blue chip sponsorship deals and future national exposure, the game will simply revert back to being a marginalised northern game. The game is doomed without a viable national presence in the SL'"


I agree , but how long can they justify thier inclusion if they are unable to draw any sizeable crowds [ and yes I know they are the community kings of the RL world ] , when the RFL have set that as a criteria , and with the unlikely increase in Tv funding eventually they will run out of benefactors to bankroll them

Much as it would have many fans at both Championship and SL level knashing thier teeth in anger , the RFL should declare the Quins a ' special ' case and start to put monies into marketing them properly in the capital

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Quote: Dico "Starbug, it's also the player pathways.
We need a southern club, im not quite sure Quins appears to be it'"


So the answer is ?

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Why should the RFL put money into a club like the Harlequins?

I mean the AFL/NRL wouldn't do it in Aus would they eusa_whistle.gif eusa_whistle.gif eusa_whistle.gif eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: Leaguefan "Why should the RFL put money into a club like the Harlequins?

I mean the AFL/NRL wouldn't do it in Aus would they

In true ' Accrington Stanley fashion '

EXACTLY icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "
Much as it would have many fans at both Championship and SL level knashing thier teeth in anger , the RFL should declare the Quins a ' special ' case and start to put monies into marketing them properly in the capital'"

Best way forward, finding the funds to do this might not be easy though.

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