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| Quote: Starbug "In a league you play everybody in it.'"
Like Super League?
Quote: Starbug "And yes teams that are not ' champions ' play in it'"
What a joke! That'll never work!
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| Quote: Catalancs "Like Super League?
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Yes , so why a play off , or are you not paying attention , as that is what this whole thread is about
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| Quote: Starbug "No it's a cup , in a league you play everybody in it , in a cup you are drawn against some of the other clubs in it , they might call it a league , but it's not
And yes teams that are not ' champions ' play in it'"
So it's a cup but it's called a league? And it's called the "champions" league but you don't have to be a champion to be in it? That sport is a laughing stock.
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| Quote: Richie "So it's a cup but it's called a league? And it's called the "champions" league but you don't have to be a champion to be in it? That sport is a laughing stock.'"
It certainly is
Except the actual league parts that virtually all country's have
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| Quote: christopher "So what you mean is, every sport apart from Association Football (and then not all of the time) uses a playoff system?
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And what about the Football League's promotion and relegation system, where the top two teams are autmatically promoted and the next four PLAY OFF for the remaining spot ?
Meaning that a team that potentially finishes 7th could jump somone who finished 3rd ...
I don't see too many soccer fans bleating about it, apart from Phil Neal when it happend to him.
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| Quote: AdmiralHanson "And what about the Football League's promotion and relegation system, where the top two teams are autmatically promoted and the next four PLAY OFF for the remaining spot ?
Meaning that a team that potentially finishes 7th could jump somone who finished 3rd ...
I don't see too many soccer fans bleating about it, apart from Phil Neal when it happend to him.'"
Promotion and relegation, now there's an idea!
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| Its very interesting the different mindsets.
I cant imagine wanting anything more than that one big game, that one last challenge, a chance to perform under pressure. The winner get the trophy, the loser leaves the country.
How can you not want that!
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| Quote: Starbug "I said ' world class sport ' , there is only one , and in most if not all those competitions they use a league system to decide their Champions'"
what about basketball? Cricket? Ice Hockey? all have a global presence
what about football in the US? Australia? Brazil?
maybe it would be easier for you to list all the major competitions, besides top tier European Association football that use a straight league format
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "rlhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-league/2009/10/03/wilkin-stop-this-play-off-hype-115875-21718885/rl
Are there any other players out there who can string a sentance together or is Wilkin the only rent-a-gob we have?
Sample stupidity this week:
Does he think that Saints' were champions they past couple of years then?
You should read HKRs former Wigan fullback Shaun Briscoe in the League Weekly. He praises everything so much, he is embarrassing. He is the polar opposite of Jons views: maybe it's a HKR thing, as that is where we signed Mr Wilkin from.
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| Quote: Starbug "Yes , so why a play off , or are you not paying attention , as that is what this whole thread is about'"
Because under the current fixture list teams do not have identical schedules so the league table is not a fair reflection of who has been the best team over the 27 weekly rounds.
Hence the only valid way to decide the champions under the current system is by a play-off between the top teams over those weekly rounds.
If the fixture list was 26 rounds home and away then there may be more of an argument for disposing of the playoffs.
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| Being a great sporting team is about both consistency and performing under pressure. The Super League system rewards teams who can do both - and that is the mark of a champion team.
Teams who can perform under pressure are rewarded in the Challenge Cup - Warrington are a good pressure side but not a consistent one - hence why they got rewarded in the CC and didn't even make the playoffs in the league.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "what about basketball? Cricket? Ice Hockey? all have a global presence
what about football in the US? Australia? Brazil?
maybe it would be easier for you to list all the major competitions, besides top tier European Association football that use a straight league format'"
I said World class Not american or commonwealth
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Because under the current fixture list teams do not have identical schedules so the league table is not a fair reflection of who has been the best team over the 27 weekly rounds.Hence the only valid way to decide the champions under the current system is by a play-off between the top teams over those weekly rounds.
If the fixture list was 26 rounds home and away then there may be more of an argument for disposing of the playoffs.'"
Of course it isn't , if Celtic had won at the Magic weekend it all could have been so different
I couldn't give a rats harris about wether we have play offs or not , it is the rules at the start so those are the rules wether I like them or not , but it still is the preserve of second class sports
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| Quote: Starbug "but it still is the preserve of second class sports'"
If those are the second class sports, what are the first class sports?
Always had you down as a leagie, not a soccer fan
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| Quote: Starbug "I said World class Not american or commonwealth'"
Basketball and ice hockey are a lot more popular gloablly than you obviously realise.
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