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I'm sure they'll be delighted to spend their full cap and marquee spots on eleven league one has-beens, a dusty cupboard, and six tubes of out of date anusol.

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Quote: IR80 "utter nonsensense, the RFL embarass themselves.'"

How exactly?

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Good luck to them. We need investors and bigger markets.

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Quote: The Silent H "How exactly?'"

you must have misssed the winless TWP experiment that haven't played a home game yet. It is a 4 hour drive from Toronto...a £700 15 hour flight from Manchester (you can't go direct).

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Good news.

Shame if they get to SL that SL we would actually be working against them.

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Brilliant news for the game. Interestingly Eric Perez said in the press conference they'll try tap into the NFL market of players who haven't made the cut.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "Good news.

Shame if they get to SL that SL we would actually be working against them.'"


There is a fundamental issue behind planting new clubs in virgin territory, without any infrastructure underneath.
Toronto have doe a fantastic job on the promotion of the sport, better than any club has managed in the UK and I expect that Ottawa will do likewise.
However, Toronto, having spent big for the first few years and gained promotion to the top flight are now showing severe trauma in their model of a SL club.
Their squad, despite still being the most expensive in the league, is wafer thin and lacking in enough quality to compete.
They are now having players who aren't on the wage bill (apparently) and the lack of any academy or reserve side has left them massively exposed.

Again, there seems to be an issue with these clubs being "Canadian" but, basing themselves in the UK, which makes it impossible to employ local players (even if there were any).
Time will be the judge on this experiment but, between those that are backing the N. American venture, there has to be a way found to put down proper roots and find a way to engage their youngsters to want to play.

Toronto generated plenty of hype but, they just havent delivered - no TV deal, no Football converts, no local born players - they aren't a Canadian side in anything but name and possibly wont be for the foreseeable future.

As I say, I really hope there is a way to develop RL in N. America but, I dont think that what we are doing is the right way.

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Chairman Eric Perez, who previously set up Super League club Toronto Wolfpack, confirmed a new head coach would be appointed in "five or six weeks".

Step up... Brian Noble.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "There is a fundamental issue behind planting new clubs in virgin territory, without any infrastructure underneath.
Toronto have doe a fantastic job on the promotion of the sport, better than any club has managed in the UK and I expect that Ottawa will do likewise.
However, Toronto, having spent big for the first few years and gained promotion to the top flight are now showing severe trauma in their model of a SL club.
Their squad, despite still being the most expensive in the league, is wafer thin and lacking in enough quality to compete.
They are now having players who aren't on the wage bill (apparently) and the lack of any academy or reserve side has left them massively exposed.

Again, there seems to be an issue with these clubs being "Canadian" but, basing themselves in the UK, which makes it impossible to employ local players (even if there were any).
Time will be the judge on this experiment but, between those that are backing the N. American venture, there has to be a way found to put down proper roots and find a way to engage their youngsters to want to play.

Toronto generated plenty of hype but, they just havent delivered - no TV deal, no Football converts, no local born players - they aren't a Canadian side in anything but name and possibly wont be for the foreseeable future.

As I say, I really hope there is a way to develop RL in N. America but, I dont think that what we are doing is the right way.'"


The issue is the sport in this country doesn't do expansion. Catalan had 3 years without relegation which makes sense.

Toronto should be given time to grow but no this sport treats them like any other club which is ridiculous.

You can't on the one hand want Rugby League to grow in North America while on the other hand not appreciate that the best chance of that happening is Canada have a competitive winning club.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "There is a fundamental issue behind planting new clubs in virgin territory, without any infrastructure underneath.
Toronto have doe a fantastic job on the promotion of the sport, better than any club has managed in the UK and I expect that Ottawa will do likewise.
However, Toronto, having spent big for the first few years and gained promotion to the top flight are now showing severe trauma in their model of a SL club.
Their squad, despite still being the most expensive in the league, is wafer thin and lacking in enough quality to compete.
They are now having players who aren't on the wage bill (apparently) and the lack of any academy or reserve side has left them massively exposed.

Again, there seems to be an issue with these clubs being "Canadian" but, basing themselves in the UK, which makes it impossible to employ local players (even if there were any).
Time will be the judge on this experiment but, between those that are backing the N. American venture, there has to be a way found to put down proper roots and find a way to engage their youngsters to want to play.

Toronto generated plenty of hype but, they just havent delivered - no TV deal, no Football converts, no local born players - they aren't a Canadian side in anything but name and possibly wont be for the foreseeable future.

As I say, I really hope there is a way to develop RL in N. America but, I dont think that what we are doing is the right way.'"



I agree with some of your points, but you can't expect instant Canadian players to play a sport which they probably haven't heard off before TWP formed 4 years ago. They have been doing a lot of community work to try to entice young Canadians in the Toronto area to become fans of the sport. If they keep on doing this, they will eventually get Canadians into the sport. A TV deal was secured at the end of January. Ottawa will no doubt learn from the mistakes created by TWP.

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I'm really not convinced that the sport in this country is on enough of a sure footing to be able to cope with such radical expansion ventures. The player pool is dwindling, not expanding. Participation in schools is going down, not up. Probably the worst thing you can do in such a situation is introduce 1 or 2 expansion clubs who, for the immediate future at least, won't be adding anything to that player pool and only taking from it.

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Quote: tomrhodes28 "I agree with some of your points, but you can't expect instant Canadian players to play a sport which they probably haven't heard off before TWP formed 4 years ago. They have been doing a lot of community work to try to entice young Canadians in the Toronto area to become fans of the sport. If they keep on doing this, they will eventually get Canadians into the sport. A TV deal was secured at the end of January. Ottawa will no doubt learn from the mistakes created by TWP.'"


Do you have a link or some more information on their TV deal ??
AS for youngsters coming along as fans, TWP have done a fantastic job in getting bums on seats but, honestly, how long will it take to "create" any Canadian players.
Have they tried to look at the current players and Union players over there or, do you think they are just pretending to put things in place.

Their "search for a star" from gridiron looked great but, ultimately, turned out to be a publicity stunt. They are Canadian in name only and that has to change.

As I said, they are a UK based side, that will struggle to employ Canadian players icon_confused.gif

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New York are launching today. Surprised Donnyman hasn't copied and pasted one of his rants?!

For what it's worth Ottawa seem to be making the right noises and seem to have learned from Toronto. Lets hope New York (to launch the year after) do the same. Still seems daft to me that these teams are based in England though - it would be much more attractive to sell it as a two year overseas adventure especially for young players.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "The issue is the sport in this country doesn't do expansion. Catalan had 3 years without relegation which makes sense.

Toronto should be given time to grow but no this sport treats them like any other club which is ridiculous.

You can't on the one hand want Rugby League to grow in North America while on the other hand not appreciate that the best chance of that happening is Canada have a competitive winning club.'"


Catalans also produced a side full of local French talent which saw the likes of Greogry Mounis, Thomas Bosc, Jamal Fakir and Rémi Casty go on to have illustrious SL careers.

For a Canadian team to be successful IMO then it needs to be a 10 year+ plan, not 3 seasons worth of rugby having thrown a bag full of money at their players. They should play in their own league based in Canada, attract local talent (Quinn Naqwati being a prime example) and GROW.

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Quote: Nothus "I'm really not convinced that the sport in this country is on enough of a sure footing to be able to cope with such radical expansion ventures. The player pool is dwindling, not expanding. Participation in schools is going down, not up. Probably the worst thing you can do in such a situation is introduce 1 or 2 expansion clubs who, for the immediate future at least, won't be adding anything to that player pool and only taking from it.'"


Again when you have a sport where so many are hellbent on sticking to the M62 you have a problem when the numbers decrease.

The game years ago had decisions to make about getting player participation up around the county.

Why do we stage World Cup games in different areas of the country but do nothing else?

World cup 2021 venues. South West? East Midlands? No let's not bother.

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