'By default' - your trolling is just embarrassing, Saints have beaten both Wigan and Warrington and continued to perform despite the constant criticisms of people like you. Ever heard of 'never write off the Saints'?

What I meant by default was, if they'd had to play wigan/warrington before the grand final they probably wouldn't get there because I don't believe they can beat either of those teams without a proper halfback. But as they've avoided them, chances are they'll lose in the final instead of the semi.

They beat both wigan and warrington with luke walsh. Had it not been for catalans beating cas they probably wouldn't be in the position they are to make the grand final.

By 'default'? Lol.

Don't you mean by winning the LLS we have avoided the best teams? It's kinda what is meant to happen when you win the league, you get some sort of benefit and reward.

I agree tho we won't win it but I don't care. I'm glad that we are now back in the big games.

Saints are too good a team to lose anything 'by default', whatever their disadvantage they always give as good as they have got and are not going to be easy beats. Wigan are strong but nothing outstanding and may I remind you that Warrington have never won a grand final.

Except a dozen times this season when they have bent over?

Yeah, for once finishing top has actually given a team a real advantage.

Is it the two winners go through or does the loser of one get another shot at it ?

You have said yourself how little weekly rounds matter, hardly worth using the energy once you're 12+ points down

I must add that Saints won at Wigan without Walsh (he went off injured in the first half)
Not saying they will win the grand final, but to say Wigan or Warrington will win 'by default' is utterly foolish

So, they lost 12 games yet still finished top? Can you elaborate on this odd statement?

If cas had beaten catalans they would have won the LLS on points difference and saints wouldn't be in the position they are to make the grand final. So it does matter for points difference. A situation out of saints control went their way so it never came into play. Some of your fans were bleating about that before the cats v cas game, that bending over in games already lost might cost you the LLS.

The way Cas have played last couple of weeks they would probably have lost week one anyway and Saints would have club call regardless.

Ifs and buts anyway.as others have said its nice to see the top team get a proper easy run to final for once, how it should be.

Finishing top has always given the top team a "real advantage". It is just Saints (so far) are capitalising on it.

Don't blame the playoff system for teams just not having any bottle.

Why did you only choose to answer 1/3 of my post?

It would be interesting to see what sort of crowd turns up for the GF if Catalans make it.

Less than 50k.probably around low 40's.