Points deducted for going into admin and having been on RFL life support for many months.
Because they are no longer in admin, this penalty is no longer applicable, well that's ok then.

Only way bulls will get 6 points back is if the independent review find this could have been avoided and it was all the RFL's fault. Not going to happen. Most we can hope for is to get 2 points back.

Thought Green was a little defensive, thought Carter came across very well and can't disagree with anything he has said.

PumptyPump, while there may not be any "proof" Surely the RFL would have released a statement if this wasn't true.

i'm not aware of any precedent for the rfl issuing statements to refute the various fictional conspiracy theories they face on a daily basis.

They responded to mark moore for example only because of his own press statement which made serious accusations.

How is that legal battle going BTW?

As I have said before, the idea that we should deduct points from Bradford at this point is stupid. It makes no sense, achieves nothing and punishes the wrong people.

The vague threat that Michael Carter is saying he was given is simply playing to the crowd, tapping in to Wakefield’s victim complex.


The idea he has tried to propagate that Bradford havent had to 'cut their cloth' and have kept their squad together is just embarrassing in its stupidity, this is a Bradford side which finished 4 points from the play-offs last year and have only won 4 points in total this year.

Im not surprised that Michael Carter is trying it, im just surprised people fall so easily for such an obviously wrong narrative

Because the reason owners try and keep a club out of admin isn’t to save their investment of hundreds of thousands, if not millions in the club, its not the professional embarrassment, the only thing that is stopping them is the threat that someone else might buy the club and have a points penalty.

What came across to me was that Green is the sort of person I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw Nigel Woods, definitely someone I'd be VERY careful dealing with!

Come on Smokey, you're better than that.
RL (and other sports) are struggling with HMRC, due to the numbers of clubs using the admin route to wipe the slate clean, which is why the penalties in the round ball game have increased over recent years.
Are you really saying that clubs avoid admin to prevent their new owners suffering a points deduction.
I know that you like to provoke a reaction on here but, this is just plain bonkers.

Businesses go into admin "to protect the business from its creditors" or occasionally to allow new owners to buy the business for very little but allowing the business to survive.

To be fair to Green he appeared to have a very clean plan to buy the Odsal development land.

Smokey, you´re right except that you underestimate the ability of VT buffoons and trolls.

When my club, Widnes, went into administration and Steve O'Connor took over, not only did we not get the 9 points back we were deducted but we were denied a place in SL as well.

Cant see any difference between what happened to Widnes and what has happened at Bradford.

For that reason I'm siding with Wakefield.

I fail to see why it's become a Bradford v Wakey thing, the RFL have rules, Bradford broke them and suffered the penalty. The new owners bought the club (on the cheap it has to be said) in FULL knowledge of the points deduction. I really can't see their angle, other than, "we are the 5th biggest club and you'd better not punish us".

Sorry to say this, as I quite liked Bradford's embracing of the new SLE era, but, big clubs come and go, just ask Swinton's fans. The RFL appears to have realised that 'massaging' a league to suit investors is actually BAD for the sport, hence London will not be saved from relegation and Bradford will not be given any points back.

Did you think what happened to Widnes was wrong? Two wrongs don't make a right do they

No what happened to us, regarding the points deduction, was totally right. We were, at the time of going into administration, badly managed and something had to give when we failed to gain promotion.

The fact that we were punished with a 9 point deduction, then punished again by not getting a franchise, was wrong. We had a new owner in Steve O'Connor and was it fair on him to have to pick up the pieces from somebody else's mess? No.

O'Connor took the decision on the chin, abided by the rules and got on with turning the clubs fortunes around. He didn't start crying in the papers and to the RFL about it, he had a vision of what he wanted to achieve at Widnes and gladly, for all the long suffering Vikings fans, he is slowly but surely doing that.

Should Bradford not have the points deduction overturned and be relegated then the only ones to blame are the previous owners. At least if they do go down they know there is a chance in twelve months time to regain their SL position, whereas Widnes had to wait three years for that opportunity.

As you say Smokey, two wrongs don't make a right, but also two identical wrongs should receive identical punishments.