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Quote: Tre Cool "US sports administrators would think we are all nuts. This romantic ideal of promotion and relegation based purely on performance on the pitch is as stupid as militant amateurism.'"


Then SL is set , and will not change, or should not change

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Quote: Starbug "Then SL is set , and will not change, or should not change'"


Its not perfect, but automatic relegation is worse.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: Tre Cool "US sports administrators would think we are all nuts. ]This romantic ideal of promotion and relegation based purely on performance on the pitch] is as stupid as militant amateurism.'"


The Usual bull from folk like

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Tre Cool "Its not perfect, but automatic relegation is worse.'"


Correct, the promotion bit isnt the problem , the relegation bit isnt the problem for any club just promoted, its the long standing ' protected ' clubs that are the problem

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Quote: Wellsy13 "'"
Quote: Wellsy13 "We're talking "professional" sport. It's not just about winning, it's about adding to the competition.

This is people's livelihoods here. It works both ways. Denying a club that's not fit for purpose may deny people their moment in the Sun, but including them and downgrading the competition because of it affects the competition as a whole.

Quote: Wellsy13 "There are standards for a reason. If it was only about sport, we wouldn't need to pay players.'"
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I know there are standards for a reason, but it does seem in this case that the standards had been met and that it was the governing body trying to manipulate the make up of the top flight.
Regarding the peoples livlihoods, at least the players involved had the chance to directly affect their own futures, this is not the case for most ordinary folk !

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Quote: Tre Cool "US sports administrators would think we are all nuts. This romantic ideal of promotion and relegation based purely on performance on the pitch is as stupid as militant amateurism.'"



Yes all their "world series" games are against "American" teams. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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I never had a problem with ground minimum standards as a promotion condition, but the RFL changed them to suit Cas's lack of seats. Deep down Dewsbury and Hunslet knew they couldn't get in before the season started - which is when the decision should be made ie before the event.

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Quote: maurice "I never had a problem with ground minimum standards as a promotion condition, but the RFL changed them to suit Cas's lack of seats. Deep down Dewsbury and Hunslet knew they couldn't get in before the season started - which is when the decision should be made ie before the event.'"


I think its this sort of thin that annoys the average punter.
If the clubs dont meet the minimum standards to allow promotion, then this should be made public as far in advance as is reasonable.
This would remove any doubt surrounding perceived preference and stop the cynics amongst us from crying "fix" etc.
There is no problem with setting a benchmark, but the goalposts shouldn't then be moved to accommodate certain clubs or moved in the
opposite direction to preclude others.
The "romantic" view would be that regardless of facilities and numbers of seats etc, promotion should be based on sporting performance.
Back in the real world all that is needed is transparency without any hidden agenda.

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Whatever happened to that shiney new stadium Celtic Crusaders were having built ? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: maurice "I never had a problem with ground minimum standards as a promotion condition, but the RFL changed them to suit Cas's lack of seats. Deep down Dewsbury and Hunslet knew they couldn't get in before the season started - which is when the decision should be made ie before the event.'"


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Quote: Cassandra "Yes all their "world series" games are against "American" teams.
Do you know why its called the world series?

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Quote: Cassandra "Yes all their "world series" games are against "American" teams. I think you'll find a few Canadians who may beg to differ on that......

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Quote: gutterfax "I think you'll find a few Canadians who may beg to differ on that......'"


I didnt know the Canadians played ' Rounders ' ?

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Quote: Tre Cool "Do you know why its called the world series?'"


Not because it was sponsored by a newspaper called The World, if that's what you're angling for.

Heres the explanation...
Translation: We're the of the world, so our teams are world champions.

The American model is all about extracting money for the owners. Its awful if you want to grow the game. There is a good reason American football has no other professional sports league outside of the US. The owners only care about enriching themselves. When they started losing a bit of money on NFL Europa, they pulled the plug straight away. The franchise isn't the ideal model, though I don't think that P&R is the magic pill for Super League. P&R only really works well if you're the most popular sport.

By the way, PLENTY of American sports team's hemorrhage money. Last year 15 teams in the NBA posted an operating income in the minus. There are 30 teams. NHL was worse with 18 teams posting an operating income in the minus. The difference with a lot of these other sports league is that their revenues are so much higher than SL that it makes investing more attractive.

Both P&R and franchise have their pros and cons. Neither are the right solution.

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