Honestly, I'd play Ellis at centre for England

For what reason?

1 S.Tomkins
2 Briscoe
3 Reed
4 Shenton
5 ?
6 Widdop
7 Brough

It's a coach we need.

According to the official stats for that game...

Ellis made 98 metres... Gibbs 127, Heighington 109 and Galloway 198 made more.
Ellis made 15 hit-ups... so did Heighington and Galloway made 21.
Ellis made 3 ineffective tackles... Heighington made 2, Gibbs 1 and Galloway ZERO.
Ellis made no line breaks... Galloway did.
Eliis missed 6 tackles... Heighington missed 2, Galloway 4, Gibbs ZERO.
Ellis made 1 tackle break... Heighington made 6, Galloway 3.

What did Ellis do again?

WTF are you on about?

Being a Wigan fan, I'd say Charnley but there's a few in contention like Hall

Did you watch the game,
Stats don't tell half the story if you think they do then you're a fool.

Yes, I did watch the game. Which game were you watching? On Friday he missed 6 tackles, made 3 ineffective tackles and failed to make a single line break. There were other Tigers forwards who performed way better than him. His performance was below his usual solid yet unspectacular. None of this amounts to Ellis "mashing up" the NRL opposition and "crushing" them on Friday

He should do OK by performing in a solid yet unspectacular fashion in a losing 4N England side in November because he's one of our best players.

They'll beat Wales.

It isn't just Ellis. Widdop is one of the form halves in the game. And as a Souths fan I can't say I could be any more impressed with Luke Burgess. I know he won't make the England squad, but he's handled the change with ease and will certainly be in our 17 next season. I have to admit to not seeing a huge amount of him before he came to us, but if his normal level is what he has shown so far I'm very surprised that Leeds weren't interested in keeping him. Good player.

surely a mistake......most said on here that luke would be lucky to make the norths team...let alone souths 1st team


and don't count him out of not making the england squad

I havn't watched him every week like Wigan fans, but is his posisioning in defence not a bit suspect?

He won MoM on Friday for a reason, most influential player on the ground. And it was after he copped a heavy facial knock in the first few minutes.

2. ryan hall
3. joel tomkins
4. gareth ellis
5. jermain mac


how about that........its often said we lack size,strength & speed in the 3/4's....i think i've just ticked all the boxes

i would'nt "definitely play reed"...........he's gonna opt for queensland anyway