Not saying there weren't forward passes, but drawing a line from where the ball was passed and where it went is no use as passes aren't judged on that, they are judged in relation to the passer and also momentum (not to be confused with Stevos momentum rule) so if a player is running forward and he passes the ball, the ball can end up 5 metres forward from where it was passed and still be legal

The last bit is stevo s momentum rule , if the ball travels forward in relation to the goal line it is a forward pass

That isn't the correct way to judge a forward pass. If the ball carrier is running forwards at 15mph then it means the ball is moving at that speed also. When the pass is made, the ball still has forward momentum, even when the pass is perfectly flat in relation to the passer.

No it's not. Never ceases to amaze me so many RL fans just don't get the forward pass rule.

There is no 'momentum rule', but player and relative ball momentum is certainly taken into account when judging forward passes.



But that said, momentum or not there were a shtload of forward passes missed today.

Yeah agreed there were forward passes missed but it doesn't help when fans make there own interpretations up like Starbug did there. Theres a video on Youtube somewhere (albeit a RU one) which shows the physics and nuances of the forward pass rule

deliberate forward passes should be penalised against
if you dont pack down at a scrum properley then penalty the other way
and like in the NRL.......whoever packs down in the scrum to stop the clock should have to stay put not break away

It also looks more forward when the passer stops after releasing the ball, whilst ball and catcher are still going in forward momentum.

As an example Player with ball and support player doing 15 m.p.h throws out a flat pass and immediatly after releasing the ball slows down to 5 m.p.h, ball and support player still doing 15 m.ph. after a second, ball momentum loses a little momentum but the ball has travelled between 3 and 4 metres depending on strength of pass.

The ref let the game go as much as he could. I thought the Leeds try was exceptionally forward but Wire had an NFL type try aided from the bum.

I had a bloke sat next to me that must have said 'that was bloody forward' 50 times in each half.

I wish I was exaggerating.........I really do.

Then quite simply the rules have changed , to what they were a few years ago , as for a RU video , since when have RU been bothered about forward passes , it s been part of their game for decades

Was he wearing a Hull KR shirt?

No, you just don't understand the rules. The laws of physics haven't changed in the last few years.

Try watching the RU video, it may be RU but the principal is EXACTLY the same. Actually, I don't expect you to watch it, but rlhere it isrl if you're man enough to put your hand up and admit you didn't understand (like most of Knowsley Road).

Just watched , all forward passes , the last ones the type Leeds do most of the time , just out of interest what is stevo s momentum rule ?

Hmmm. I'm 95% sure you're trolling, because no-one could be so stupid unless on a wind up, but nevertheless I'll bite.

Stevo's 'momentum rule' is simply referring to the phrase in the RFL Laws stating that the thrower's MOMENTUM means the ball can travel forward relative to the ground, but still travel backwards in relation to himself. It's all about momentum.

Try running forwards at full pelt and passing the ball backwards in relation to the point the ball leaves your hands. You'd literally have to hurl it behind you.

I posted it before, but try reading this again[sizebecause of the thrower’s own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground[/size. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not passed the ball forward in relation to himself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.'"