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Surrender and dominant tackles aren't related to tactics.

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Quote: headhunter "Surrender and dominant tackles aren't related to tactics.'"


so coaches dont tell their players to achieve surrender tackles, they happen by coincidence
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Speaking of tactics, there has been a huge number of scrum moves in the NRL this year.

So much for that insightful poster who claimed scrums are a waste of time in our game. I seem to recall he also has a peculiar fixation for the Welsh union backline.

As I said at the time, scrums remain a crucial attacking platform. If teams don't utilise it (as the evidence above in fact shows they [ido[/i), that is an issue for the coach and team tactics - not a reason to remove the scrum from the game.

Irrespective of whether or not the scrum itself constitutes more of a contest.*

Leaving aside the scrum's imperfect design, I believe it is better to make them at least resemble the contest they once were.

*which in my humble opinion it should...

In the meantime, with the use of the 40/20 kick especially, they remain a crucial part of the attacking repertoire for a quality rugby league side.

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anyway :

unders line is when the attackers run a line back towards the PTB whilst an overs line is when the attack goes outside / away from the PTB

unders lines are used to catch holes in slide defences on the inside, or slow markers at the ruck

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Quote: Gijou "Speaking of tactics, there has been a huge number of scrum moves in the NRL this year.

So much for that insightful poster who claimed scrums are a waste of time in our game. I seem to recall he also has a peculiar fixation for the Welsh union backline.

As I said at the time, scrums remain a crucial attacking platform. If teams don't utilise it (as the evidence above in fact shows they [ido[/i), that is an issue for the coach and team tactics - not a reason to remove the scrum from the game.

Irrespective of whether or not the scrum itself constitutes more of a contest.*

Leaving aside the scrum's imperfect design, I believe it is better to make them at least resemble the contest they once were.

*which in my humble opinion it should...

In the meantime, with the use of the 40/20 kick especially, they remain a crucial part of the attacking repertoire for a quality rugby league side.'"


yeah the tigers and raiders do make good use of scrums for set moves.

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Quote: dally messenger "yeah the tigers and raiders do make good use of scrums for set moves.'"


The Tigers yesterday were a breath of fresh air from the scrums. I dont understand why more teams dont try things. My HullFC team seem to just drop a forward out of the scrum and take a non-expansive drive to set up for the next 3 drives.

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Quote: Big Dave T "The Tigers yesterday were a breath of fresh air from the scrums. I dont understand why more teams dont try things. My HullFC team seem to just drop a forward out of the scrum and take a non-expansive drive to set up for the next 3 drives.'"



scored a try from an excellent switch from the scrum against warrington

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bodies in motion refers to both defence and attack

in attack its getting runners with the ball carrier, rather than the ball carrier running one out

if you run one out its easy to pile on defenders and stop the attacking momentum with dominant tacklers

if you have a few runners going with the man the ball its harder for defenders to pile onto the man with the ball as they have to mark the decoy runners in case they get the ball

so having runners allows for quicker play the balls

in defence of course you want 2 or 3 tacklers on the ball carrier to slow it down and set your line

if you can "turtle" the ball carrier by getting him on his back even better.

the whole idea of defence is not just to make the tackle but to slow the PTB down so you can re-set your defensive line

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Quote: number 6 "scored a try from an excellent switch from the scrum against warrington'"


We did but i can count on one hand the number of tries we've scored from scrums in the last 3 seasons.

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Quote: Big Dave T "We did but i can count on one hand the number of tries we've scored from scrums in the last 3 seasons.'"


hudds away last season?

the only others i can think of is bradford at home in the play offs and warrington away the same season

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Quote: number 6 "hudds away last season?

the only others i can think of is bradford at home in the play offs and warrington away the same season'"


We've scored 3 this season.

Hally full lengther and the Tansey try from Turner grubber too.

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Quote: dally messenger "bodies in motion refers to both defence and attack

in attack its getting runners with the ball carrier, rather than the ball carrier running one out

if you run one out its easy to pile on defenders and stop the attacking momentum with dominant tacklers

if you have a few runners going with the man the ball its harder for defenders to pile onto the man with the ball as they have to mark the decoy runners in case they get the ball

so having runners allows for quicker play the balls

in defence of course you want 2 or 3 tacklers on the ball carrier to slow it down and set your line

if you can "turtle" the ball carrier by getting him on his back even better.

the whole idea of defence is not just to make the tackle but to slow the PTB down so you can re-set your defensive line'"


Does this clown think we have never watched the game before?

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The art of Rugby League Tactics According to Dally Messenger "Just use dummy runners":



Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "Does this clown think we have never watched the game before?'"


The funny thing, he hasnt (watched the game that is).

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Quote: dally messenger "so coaches dont tell their players to achieve surrender tackles, they happen by coincidence

Seriously though dally, all you've done on this thread is listed a couple of commonly used buzzwords and terms, it doesn't show that you've got any sort of understanding other than you can perhaps identify and name certain things that I would expect an u14s player to know about. Although you do have a point that there is an alarming lack of knowledge about the game from the majority of fans, who are often then so quick to criticise a coach without actually knowing what is going on.

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Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "Does this clown think we have never watched the game before?'"



watched it = yes
understood all the subleties = ?

im here to help

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