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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: SmokeyTA "no, as i said, there is some misplaced emnity in the game, but nothing that wont dissipate in a period of stability (lets not forget franchising was a huge revolution for the game, only 12 years after the advent of SL, this is a particularly changing time for the game).

And what benefit would there be to anyone for SL to leave the RFL?'"


like the NRL i think sle has outgrown the rest of the sport.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: j.c "i'll bet your one of those who allow there kids to run around in restaurant annoying everyone whilst proclaiming its ok we dont live by rules.

or are you someone who believes rules are ther to be broken regardless of the consequences.'"
no, im one of those people who think that a rules are irrelevant compared to the consequence.

Rules are tools used to try and structure a specific consequence, if the rules fail to do that they are worse than pointless, they are counter-productive.

If the game is better served ignoring or changing the rules it puts upon itself, then sticking to them is idiotic.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: j.c "like the NRL i think sle has outgrown the rest of the sport.'"

but the NRL isnt, and wont be separated from the rest of RL in Australasia. What benefit would we gain from splitting SL and the championships (which is what you really mean, there is no issue really in the links between SL and the amateur game, they are in most part pretty good?)

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Quote: SmokeyTA "really, many would argue that blindly sticking by the rules is cowardly, that it is the mark of a true man to be able stand up, be counted and follow their convictions.'"


Could you really attribute this to the RFL? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

You'd have wiped the floor with Tariq Aziz icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "no, im one of those people who think that a rules are irrelevant compared to the consequence.

Rules are tools used to try and structure a specific consequence, if the rules fail to do that they are worse than pointless, they are counter-productive.

If the game is better served ignoring or changing the rules it puts upon itself, then sticking to them is idiotic.'"


if an event happens and is unstoppable then that event must be allowed to run its co before you can analyse it and then alter the rules accordingly,you cant change the rules when you dont know the outcome.
ffs smokey they're likely to bring these rules back when this is all over.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: littlerich "Could you really attribute this to the RFL? well, no, as I said, its the RFL's lack of drive that caused this issue. They needed to ignore those saying we need to keep in the competitive aspect, ignore the 'closed shop' whining and pushed forward with a true franchise system

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Quote: SmokeyTA "no, im one of those people who think that a rules are irrelevant compared to the consequence.

Rules are tools used to try and structure a specific consequence, if the rules fail to do that they are worse than pointless, they are counter-productive.

If the game is better served ignoring or changing the rules it puts upon itself, then sticking to them is idiotic.'"


Blimey, you've spouted some toss on this forum over the years but that is possibly your finest hour.

Contemptible drivel.

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Quote: j.c "if an event happens and is unstoppable then that event must be allowed to run its co before you can analyse it and then alter the rules accordingly,you cant change the rules when you dont know the outcome.'"
what outcome? They havent committed themselves to anything. All they have done is change the rules to give them another option.
Quote: j.c "ffs smokey they're likely to bring these rules back when this is all over.'"
I doubt they will, i think it is clear the SL chairmen changed these rules not because of Crusaders, but because there are a few others who are worried they too could be affected.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "well, no, as I said, its the RFL's lack of BALLS,BACKBONE,MORAL FIBRE that caused this issue. They needed to ignore those saying we need to keep in the competitive aspect, ignore the 'closed shop' whining and pushed forward with a true franchise system'"


Thats better

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: prehensile "Blimey, you've spouted some toss on this forum over the years but that is possibly your finest hour.

Contemptible drivel.'"

fine, you stick to your rules, even when impracticable and counter-productive, it makes no difference to me

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Quote: Starbug "Thats the paranoid anti-RFL agenda driven version'"


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Quote: SmokeyTA "but the NRL isnt, and wont be separated from the rest of RL in Australasia. What benefit would we gain from splitting SL and the championships (which is what you really mean, there is no issue really in the links between SL and the amateur game, they are in most part pretty good?)'"


does the NRL come under the ARL or does it have a seperate governing body?

as iv'e said before,SLE should have its own governing body and it should be based in london because its a european league.the rfl should be left to oversee the rest of the sport.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: j.c "does the NRL come under the ARL or does it have a seperate governing body?'"
it is governed by the NRL of which the ARL is a part

Quote: j.c "as iv'e said before,SLE should have its own governing body and it should be based in london because its a european league.the rfl should be left to oversee the rest of the sport.'"
it does, some functions are taken on by SL and some by the RFL, But what benefit would we get from making this split larger?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "well, no, as I said, its the RFL's lack of drive that caused this issue. They needed to ignore those saying we need to keep in the competitive aspect, ignore the 'closed shop' whining and pushed forward with a true franchise system'"

icon_biggrin.gifOH: icon_biggrin.gifOH: icon_biggrin.gifOH: icon_beat.gif icon_beat.gif icon_beat.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "it is governed by the NRL of which the ARL is a part

it does, some functions are taken on by SL and some by the RFL, But what benefit would we get from making this split larger?'"


is the ARL govened by the NRL?
one of the probable benefits to SLE being based in london and being self govening is this,it cannot be seen as a northern sport anymore,which appears to be the holy grail that everyone is craving.

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