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Quote: Dico "Jesus Dally, I've suspected it in the past but now I know, you're doolally.

This office employs roughly 20 people.
6 of us are season ticket holders, go nearly every game, because we can afford it as an 'extra' if you will. A further 8 people are former season ticket holders who simply cannot afford to go anymore, when times are tight, 17 quid a week, transport, couple of pints etc is too much when people have families to support. 6 others are women or just dont care.
2 points from this scenario; a) this is a law office, we're not exactly the lowest of the pecking order b) this is just ONE office in warrington.
Imagine this accross everywhere.

The financial 'crisis' might be over in Australia I don't know, but lets face it, there's nothing of any note there. Probably no banks needed to be bailed out I mean, do you have any banks that even register on a world level?

One SL club will be departing us, I can't see past Salford if we tally up points accross the board, it definately won't be wakefield as you claimed as definate not so long ago.

I do also believe RL to be in a healthy state, as I said in my post above I think we're on for a boom, the RL word is spreading but it wont be this year, next or the one after that. Unemployment is ridiculous among educated people even and Families just haven't got the money. Simple as'"


if you think the RFL will kick out salford now that they are building their ground you need help.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Wembley2009 "Lol comments like "we're middle class" make me laugh, does it even exist except to those that think they are??'"

To answer you question...it does exist. The difference between middle and working class is you credit score and ability to get credit.....and the distribution of credit to the working calss has resulted in the current recession
Proof!


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and the people giving them that credit were the upper classes who didnt care because they get million dollar bonuses.

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NRL :

average year to date : 17,749

best -

broncos 35,514
storm 21,186
saints 20,258
souths 20,078
tigers 19,743
eels 18,542
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: dally messenger "and the people giving them that credit were the upper classes who didnt care because they get million dollar bonuses.'"

and your point is?
Aspiration is just another form of jealousy....kind of like league being green eyed over unions INTERNATIONAL appeal and it being the other way around DOMESTICALLY ......everyone wants to keep up with the joneses.

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Quote: gutterfax "To answer you question...it does exist. The difference between middle and working class is you credit score and ability to get credit.....and the distribution of credit to the working calss has resulted in the current recession
Proof!'"


No that's quite wrong. Bankers lending to anyone at unsustainable income multipliers or "self certified" income propping up an artificially strong housing market added to the solely bonus related purchases of "sub prime" mortgages in the States was the catalyst for the recession.

Investors bailing out of the worst effected banks (Northern Rock) creating a shortage in the money supply compounded by the banks then virtually putting a freeze on lending brought on the recession. The working classes are just the ones who happened to lose their jobs.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Barnacle Bill "No that's quite wrong. Bankers lending to anyone at unsustainable income multipliers or "self certified" income propping up an artificially strong housing market added to the solely bonus related purchases of "sub prime" mortgages in the States was the catalyst for the recession.

Investors bailing out of the worst effected banks (Northern Rock) creating a shortage in the money supply compounded by the banks then virtually putting a freeze on lending brought on the recession. The working classes are just the ones who happened to lose their jobs.'"


Yes Brother....whatever you say!
GREED and the jealousy of people thinking they could live the DFS 4 year interest free lifestyle caused this dip. As usual, the 1% of the population controlled what went on, but don't for one second say the poor working
class people are the victims here......they all have SKY tv, mobile phones etc.....you cut your cloth accordingly and the majority of the UK didn't....easy to balme Goldmans though isn't it icon_wink.gif

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the poor guy that is encouraged into overpaying for a house he cant afford doesnt get any leniency

but the fat cats that lent him that money get bonuses and taxpayer bail outs

id love to get a bail out every time i make a mistake in business

heck northern rock even bailed out the newcaastle union team, taking over their ground for millions more than it was worth

if only the working man and RL got help like that

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True Dally but unlike Australia, we HAD to bail out the banks there was absolutely no alternative, they are too big. You probably wouldn't have the same problem, what with there being no real banks of any note over there icon_wink.gif
The bonus system, well, go and do some reading. This isn't an economics class.
But yes, this is why Rugby League will continue to limp along at least for the next couple of years. Especially when fathers are leaving their kids at home who are the next generation.

The positive is that they can't afford the soccer either.

As for Wembley.. If you associate me with you screbs that live in council flats in Orford then.. How many windows have you got?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: dally messenger "the poor guy that is encouraged into overpaying for a house he cant afford doesnt get any leniency

but the fat cats that lent him that money get bonuses and taxpayer bail outs

id love to get a bail out every time i make a mistake in business

heck northern rock even bailed out the newcaastle union team, taking over their ground for millions more than it was worth

if only the working man and RL got help like that'"


STOP.....STOP believing what the papers tell you......you will only dig a deeped hole for yourself.

Eveyone admits that the fat cats are responsible.....but it was the people who applied for the credit they couldn't afford who drove this recession to where it is now. If you can't afford it, you can't have it.....always a good way to run your life.
Just because an advert says you can afford it doesn't mean you can. Blame where Blame is due.....but remember who asked for the loans in the first place.

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Anyone who wants to discuss the banking crisis, sub-prime mortgages or economic policy can do so on the Sin Bin. This is a rugby league thread on a rugby league forum. Stay on topic.

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But it is related to this thread, in every way.
Warringtons attendances dropped about 20% throughout the recession and they weren't the only club. The recession has had a massive impact on Rugby League and the 'types' that follow it.

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you can't compare Oz to UK in current economic climate

there is NO recession in Oz and there never has been one

Money is tight in the UK and people have had to curb their spending

this isn't the case in OZ

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The people most greatly affected are the people that watch Rugby League.
Even soccers been affected but the big sides can all pull fans from everywhere. Ridiculous waiting lists for soccer season tickets at some clubs

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we are actually in boom in Western Australia!

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