This didn't happen when Richard Lewis was in charge and for all his faults this wouldn't have happened under Maurice Lindsey

Load of shiite your sport has been shrinking consistently in the local and national consciousness since superleague came into being

I for one don't know how Lyrica would be of any use in solving the game wide marketing problem.

Wouldn't surprised me if we tried it, we love to try something completely random and untested to solve all our problems.

Absolute diabolical

Super League is arguably the most competitive and random it has been (Leeds bottom 4 then Champions a year later, Cas in the Grand Final while Wire in the bottom 4 etc) but this has been the weakest year for marketing I can remember.

They can and do do some stuff right, but let's not pretend they are perfect and don't get stuff wrong at times whether it be RL or another sport.

I was thinking more about Sky but yeah fair enough. Wish they would just show some clips of action from the previous season instead of this celebrity endorsement cr@p.

The fact we have some of the very best athletes in the world playing out sport and yet we dont know how to market that idea is a real shame. Going off on a tangent, but Its a shame superstars isnt on anymore. RL players would dominate imo.

Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"The fact we have some of the very best athletes in the world playing out sport and yet we dont know how to market that idea is a real shame. Going off on a tangent, but Its a shame superstars isnt on anymore. RL players would dominate imo.'" Hmmm, I'm not so sure, pro athletes have improved everywhere since the 70s/early 80s and though Keith Fielding was a great athlete and did really well but Malcolm McDonald was a 10.9 man I think it'd be tight given the disciplines which aren't just all about raw power/endurance. Based loosely on the modern Pentathlon these were the events I remember with an option to miss one though they also had the pro athlete being excluded if it were their actual sport (which I thought was wrong tbh). 100m dash/steeple chase Swimming Canoeing Shooting Cycling (latterly basketball and soccer dribbling/shooting) Weight lifting Gym test - dips and squats Think they even had cricket one year. Here's a nice little vid of some of the competitors years after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE4ZYo7tvCI

Quote Mr. Zucchini Head="Mr. Zucchini Head"The fact we have some of the very best athletes in the world playing out sport and yet we dont know how to market that idea is a real shame. Going off on a tangent, but Its a shame superstars isnt on anymore. RL players would dominate imo.'" Hmmm, I'm not so sure, pro athletes have improved everywhere since the 70s/early 80s and though Keith Fielding was a great athlete and did really well but Malcolm McDonald was a 10.9 man I think it'd be tight given the disciplines which aren't just all about raw power/endurance. Based loosely on the modern Pentathlon these were the events I remember with an option to miss one though they also had the pro athlete being excluded if it were their actual sport (which I thought was wrong tbh). 100m dash/steeple chase Swimming Canoeing Shooting Cycling (latterly basketball and soccer dribbling/shooting) Weight lifting Gym test - dips and squats Think they even had cricket one year. Here's a nice little vid of some of the competitors years after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE4ZYo7tvCI

Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"Hmmm, I'm not so sure, pro athletes have improved everywhere since the 70s/early 80s and though Keith Fielding was a great athlete and did really well but Malcolm McDonald was a 10.9 man I think it'd be tight given the disciplines which aren't just all about raw power/endurance. Based loosely on the modern Pentathlon these were the events I remember with an option to miss one though they also had the pro athlete being excluded if it were their actual sport (which I thought was wrong tbh). 100m dash/steeple chase Swimming Canoeing Shooting Cycling (latterly basketball and soccer dribbling/shooting) Weight lifting Gym test - dips and squats Think they even had cricket one year. Here's a nice little vid of some of the competitors years after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE4ZYo7tvCI'" There arent many better allrounders than RL players though. Show me another game that requires the stamina, skill, speed, strength and toughness. Someone like a Jamie Shaul, Tom Johnstone, Kallum Watkins etc would take some real beating.

Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"Hmmm, I'm not so sure, pro athletes have improved everywhere since the 70s/early 80s and though Keith Fielding was a great athlete and did really well but Malcolm McDonald was a 10.9 man I think it'd be tight given the disciplines which aren't just all about raw power/endurance. Based loosely on the modern Pentathlon these were the events I remember with an option to miss one though they also had the pro athlete being excluded if it were their actual sport (which I thought was wrong tbh). 100m dash/steeple chase Swimming Canoeing Shooting Cycling (latterly basketball and soccer dribbling/shooting) Weight lifting Gym test - dips and squats Think they even had cricket one year. Here's a nice little vid of some of the competitors years after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE4ZYo7tvCI'" There arent many better allrounders than RL players though. Show me another game that requires the stamina, skill, speed, strength and toughness. Someone like a Jamie Shaul, Tom Johnstone, Kallum Watkins etc would take some real beating.

Biggest problem would be clubs (RL, RU or football) wanting current players to participate for fear or injury. Wouldn't want a key player doing a Kevin Keegan on a bike.

The BBC had a rubbish new game show yesterday afternoon featuring celebrities doing obstacle course type events and Martin Offiah was on it whose playing days were a long time ago, but also from RU you had a past player in Ben Cohen instead of current players.

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I can see what the reasoning behind this years ad was, but the execution is just awful. SKY, as the broadcast partner of the game and our #1 source of income seem quite content to do the bare minimum to promote the sport and while we bemoan the lack of media coverage across the board, it is up to the Clubs and their newly appointed board running SL to start to put pressure on SKY to step up their game.
For all Adam Pearson's bluster, I can't see the game being in a different position in 10 years time to that which it is now unless the game starts to hold out broadcast partner to account. Other sports get plenty of support from their partners. SKY NZ actively spend money advertising on National Channels here and they use the lure of Super Rugby and NRL, the Black Caps(Cricket), Silver Ferns(Netball), All Blacks and Kiwis to attract new subscribers.

Netflix, Amazon et al are the future of broadcasting and in 2017 SKY NZ lost 5% of their subscribers, so are pressing hard on the sports ticket to stop the drain. It can't be that different for SKY/BT in the UK and whilst the lure of football will always catch the most attention, why not concentrate on using League to attract subscribers. As far as the clubs are concerned, why not as an experiment don't they offer to give 2 free tickets to a game to 1,000 lapsed SKY subscribers........so sky write to their leaving customer and "sorry to see you go and thanks for being a great customer....here's 2 tickets to a game as our way of saying thanks......and if you ever want to come back, you now where we are"

Not saying that all the tickets would be used, but it scores points for SKY with them seeing as being "generous" whilst we are "interacting' with our broadcast PARTNER.

As it stands, we simply take their money like gleeful kids getting their pocket money and do as we are told by schedulers, regardless of the impact it has on the image of the game......Huddersfield hosted Castleford on May 4th 2017 for a Thursday night fixture that attracted 77,000 viewers who would have seen 5,500 fans in a 25,000 seat stadium........we need more say in which games we are going to allow them to move, because if we allow them to broadcast Thursday Night games such as the one on September 21st last year, then the "image" of our sport will become further tarnished.....Salford on TV hosting St Helens in the Super 8's in front of 2,804 fans is just stupid.......we need to engage the broadcaster and work with them.