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The Beeb are only interested in the Rugby Union 6 nations build up for the next couple of weeks, noticed some player interviews have already started on breakfast TV. The 6 nations I think start at the same Superleague weekend, rugby league will be taking a back seat for a while yet.
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I do.....and I do so with fact over opinion, with figures rather than "what I think".
Donald Trump, who you obviously admire, calls out news sites that don't cover or report in his desired way "fake news" and this is exactly what you are doing. Brexit was built on a repeated lie and fear of missing out and that is exactly what you and your anti-bbc buddies are doing here.....saying it's not right or it's not fair and that surely TGG should be covered, when the reality is the sport gets as much coverage from ALL media outlets as it deserves. The Nations Capital city has 2 pro/semi-pro sides who between them get 1,000 fans at games each fortnight.......let that FACT sink in....500 fans a week over 30 weeks or so.....that is it....15,000 tickets sold to 30 games in the nations capital and you wonder why the sport gets' short shift from ALL media outlets.
If I wanted to have a pint of real ale, I'd visit a pub, not a chemist! You however, seem fixated on walking into the local branch of Boots and demanding a pint of Tetley's like it's your god given Right 
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Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"I do.....and I do so with fact over opinion, with figures rather than "what I think".
Donald Trump, who you obviously admire, calls out news sites that don't cover or report in his desired way "fake news" and this is exactly what you are doing. Brexit was built on a repeated lie and fear of missing out and that is exactly what you and your anti-bbc buddies are doing here.....saying it's not right or it's not fair and that surely TGG should be covered, when the reality is the sport gets as much coverage from ALL media outlets as it deserves. The Nations Capital city has 2 pro/semi-pro sides who between them get 1,000 fans at games each fortnight.......let that FACT sink in....500 fans a week over 30 weeks or so.....that is it....15,000 tickets sold to 30 games in the nations capital and you wonder why the sport gets' short shift from ALL media outlets.
If I wanted to have a pint of real ale, I'd visit a pub, not a chemist! You however, seem fixated on walking into the local branch of Boots and demanding a pint of Tetley's like it's your god given Right
Stop visiting a site that doesn't show what you want rather than continuing to go there expecting something different.'"
Jesus wept you're getting into a right hissy ranting about Donald Trump, Real Ale and Brexit because someone criticised your beloved BBC.
The thread isn't about BBC's overall coverage over a long period of time, it's about the last two weeks which has been very non existent by them and people incorrectly pointing the blame at the RFL and the clubs.
The excuses defending the BBC dished out for why the RL page on the BBC's site has gone virtually dead in the last two weeks don't stack up I'm afraid. "The clubs and RL don't the get the stories out"...,.clearly they do as they're on Sky Sports and I showed evidence of BBC doing regular articles most days in the previous weeks.
"The stories aren't worthwhile or interesting for them to cover" The suggestion about articles on new captain appointments are dismissed on here by a few, strange then that BBC has previously covered new captain appointments
Here a link to a BBC article on McGuire being appointment Leeds captain
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/35323440
I can show you the same for when Wilkin at Saints and Monaghan at Wire were made captains.
Hock signing for Championship Featherstone.... I can show you when the covered his signing for Championship Leigh
Not interest in the Toronto sackings because they're only a Championship team? Can show you articles Baileys drug case, signings of Sims, Westerman and Bailey.
The stories that have come out in the last two weeks ARE stories they usually cover but for some reason the page has gone dead in the last fortnight. As usual the blame was put at the people running the sport and clubs and by god I agree that they could do much more in the marketing but this is clearly something wrong with the BBC side of things as much as you want to deny it |
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Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"I do.....and I do so with fact over opinion, with figures rather than "what I think".
Donald Trump, who you obviously admire, calls out news sites that don't cover or report in his desired way "fake news" and this is exactly what you are doing. Brexit was built on a repeated lie and fear of missing out and that is exactly what you and your anti-bbc buddies are doing here.....saying it's not right or it's not fair and that surely TGG should be covered, when the reality is the sport gets as much coverage from ALL media outlets as it deserves. The Nations Capital city has 2 pro/semi-pro sides who between them get 1,000 fans at games each fortnight.......let that FACT sink in....500 fans a week over 30 weeks or so.....that is it....15,000 tickets sold to 30 games in the nations capital and you wonder why the sport gets' short shift from ALL media outlets.
If I wanted to have a pint of real ale, I'd visit a pub, not a chemist! You however, seem fixated on walking into the local branch of Boots and demanding a pint of Tetley's like it's your god given Right
Stop visiting a site that doesn't show what you want rather than continuing to go there expecting something different.'"
Jesus wept you're getting into a right hissy ranting about Donald Trump, Real Ale and Brexit because someone criticised your beloved BBC.
The thread isn't about BBC's overall coverage over a long period of time, it's about the last two weeks which has been very non existent by them and people incorrectly pointing the blame at the RFL and the clubs.
The excuses defending the BBC dished out for why the RL page on the BBC's site has gone virtually dead in the last two weeks don't stack up I'm afraid. "The clubs and RL don't the get the stories out"...,.clearly they do as they're on Sky Sports and I showed evidence of BBC doing regular articles most days in the previous weeks.
"The stories aren't worthwhile or interesting for them to cover" The suggestion about articles on new captain appointments are dismissed on here by a few, strange then that BBC has previously covered new captain appointments
Here a link to a BBC article on McGuire being appointment Leeds captain
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/35323440
I can show you the same for when Wilkin at Saints and Monaghan at Wire were made captains.
Hock signing for Championship Featherstone.... I can show you when the covered his signing for Championship Leigh
Not interest in the Toronto sackings because they're only a Championship team? Can show you articles Baileys drug case, signings of Sims, Westerman and Bailey.
The stories that have come out in the last two weeks ARE stories they usually cover but for some reason the page has gone dead in the last fortnight. As usual the blame was put at the people running the sport and clubs and by god I agree that they could do much more in the marketing but this is clearly something wrong with the BBC side of things as much as you want to deny it | |
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At the risk of repeating myself, The BBC are not in danger of losing any traffic. That is in your head.....the BBC are the #1 News Media site in the UK.....and RL gets the same level of coverage from Yahoo.co.uk, MSN.com, The Mail, The Guardian etc etc.........start a thread about them, but cease with the BBC bullcrap, because it's old and it's never gonna change.'"
Well, they will because people searching for stories, mentions of players, names, teams, information about any aspect of rugby league will not find an article on the BBC website but instead head to other websites. More relevant and interesting content you have, the more traffic you get.
And I would also point out that the more regular you post content and the better treatment you give a section/website, the more likely people are to remember it and return. People don't see BBC as the number one website for rugby league news because THEY don't treat it as the number one website for rugby league. Forget other sports and comparisons. They should be doing the best they can to be the best for each sport and supplying news to attract readers, diehard or otherwise.
If you don't market a product it doesn't sell. If you don't cover news of a sport, you won't get traffic, visits, and people reading other content. They should be looking to take market share from the likes of Sky Sports and increasing the value of their asset. Instead, it's bordering on incompetence. The fact that in their 'All teams' list they only show Super League says it all.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"Well, they will because people searching for stories, mentions of players, names, teams, information about any aspect of rugby league will not find an article on the BBC website but instead head to other websites. More relevant and interesting content you have, the more traffic you get.
And I would also point out that the more regular you post content and the better treatment you give a section/website, the more likely people are to remember it and return. People don't see BBC as the number one website for rugby league news because THEY don't treat it as the number one website for rugby league. Forget other sports and comparisons. They should be doing the best they can to be the best for each sport and supplying news to attract readers, diehard or otherwise.
If you don't market a product it doesn't sell. If you don't cover news of a sport, you won't get traffic, visits, and people reading other content. They should be looking to take market share from the likes of Sky Sports and increasing the value of their asset. Instead, it's bordering on incompetence. The fact that in their 'All teams' list they only show Super League says it all.
Probably explains why they aren't ranked #1 in the UK on search engines for rugby league and Sky are.'"
This is spot on. The daft thing from their POV is that they put up the previously mentioned article yesterday about watching the Challenge Cup on BBC TV and online and mentioned the fixture they'll be showing online TOMORROW in the Challemge Cup. The target audience for watching that game though haven't been given any reason lately to keep visiting the site that's showing it. That's just shoddy plain and simple. |
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Correct....they aren't, but they'll take solace in their ranking as the #1 ranked news media website in the UK
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Quote Fully="PrinterThe"That's just shoddy plain and simple.'"
That is your opinion, but the reality is that those that are mad about RL will have already known it's on.
There's Zero chance of a "casual viewer" tuning into the stream and then becoming a season ticket holder at Leeds because of that they saw on the stream, nut there lies the crux of the issue with any RL zealots. You simply believe that watching one game will convert people into fans and therefore "demand" that the BBC do everything in their power to promote the sport......
As for the real ale and trump comments, they weren't a hissy fit at all, but simply an observation on how you a/ decry the lack of news that you want in the way Trump does and b/ how you visit a site that isn't the #1 site for RL news expecting it to give you loads of RL news..... |
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The blame lies equally between the clubs the RFL and the BBC.
The clubs and the RFL should have made the BBC fully aware on several occasions when the season started and the BBC should have been aware of when the season started.
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"That is your opinion, but the reality is that those that are mad about RL will have already known it's on.'"
And that's your opinion and a pretty silly one too. For someone who constantly criticised the sport for not doing enough in marketing and promoting itself you're now hypocritically taking the lazy approach of "I'm sure everyone who'd watch it will already know".
Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"There's Zero chance of a "casual viewer" tuning into the stream and then becoming a season ticket holder at Leeds because of that they saw on the stream, nut there lies the crux of the issue with any RL zealots. You simply believe that watching one game will convert people into fans and therefore "demand" that the BBC do everything in their power to promote the sport......
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i haven't said anything like what you've just put. I've not said casual viewers will watch it and become hooked on RL. I actually made a point about their target audience which will be current RL fans.
Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"As for the real ale and trump comments, they weren't a hissy fit at all, but simply an observation on how you a/ decry the lack of news that you want in the way Trump does and b/ how you visit a site that isn't the #1 site for RL news expecting it to give you loads of RL news.....'"
I don't expect loads but when there's a very irregular pattern as is the case in the last two weeks I'll call it for what it is instead of being in denial like yourself.
The fact is they were covering RL on their site in a decent enough way for the first week and a half of January with a dozen or so stories.....then they had just 1 in two weeks. That's a very irregular pattern, if the stories weren't out there then fair enough but they were as shown by Sky Sports and I showed that they covered these stories previously. They are now getting back to their usual pattern with two stories in the last two days (which aren't any bigger than the ones they missed for two weeks).
Instead of going off on tangents with your preconceived stereotypes.....actually discuss this actual issue. The two weeks their RL page went dead, because it doesn't even go with their usual traffic for that page which is usually better. You don't go from an article daily to just 1 in two weeks and not think it's an issue on their end of things.. |
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| Quote Huddersfield1895="Huddersfield1895"The blame lies equally between the clubs the RFL and the BBC.
The clubs and the RFL should have made the BBC fully aware on several occasions when the season started and the BBC should have been aware of when the season started.'"
The BBC know when the season is starting. Some of those early January articles I mentioned including the line that the season starts in Febuary and they had an article when the fixtures for the new season were announced. They had a few of their media guys up at the media launch who will have know and made plans to be there on that date for a while. |
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"The BBC know when the season is starting. Some of those early January articles I mentioned including the line that the season starts in Febuary and they had an article when the fixtures for the new season were announced. They had a few of their media guys up at the media launch who will have know and made plans to be there on that date for a while.'"
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| Quote Call Me God="Call Me God"currently the BBC RL page is awash with news....or is it still "not enough"?'"
It's not "awash" but it is back to it usual number of articles which is fine....which again begs the question why did it go awol for 2 weeks? The stories were there as the Sky Sports website proves. |
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