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| I would guess if any sanctions are taken on Salford he will not hold back naming names and clubs. The cap is the cap though and if he has used a system to breach the rules he will be made an example of. Point deduction will not work as all he will do is make sure he has a very good squad for middle 8's. I don't think they will just remove the cap without punishment. It must be tough been a Salford fan.
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| Quote bezzerscr="bezzerscr"From this it's obvious the salary cap is impossible to police so scrap it allow clubs to pay what they want and if they then end up in administration they get demoted one division teams in the bottom division forfeit promotion for one season if they are wound up its start at the bottom again a club in the bottom division forfeits promotion for two years
NO EXCEPTIONS'"
Agreed.
Just scrap the salary cap.
Replace it with a set scale of sanctions - points deductions, relegation etc for going into Adminisration or going bust - so everybody knows exactly where they stand from the off.
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| Quote Exiled down south="Exiled down south"Not forgetting the missus working in the shop on £100K
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Many clubs employee players wives to both help the wife get a job (this is particularly helpful for overseas players) and for tax purposes for the player. It's still counted on the cap but it works out better for the player.
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| The only way the RFL got round to dealing with Barrow owner Des Johnston,was after Ned Catic left the club,returned to Australia and told his story to the RLE.
[url=http://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12196/7165497/raiders-hit-with-rfl-chargesSky Report[/url
It does seem strange that the Bradford owner and 2 Super League clubs should be pressing for speedy resolution.
Are all 3 acting on press reports of the recent Puletua tribunal or do they have further information that they have presented to the RFL?
It seems a little conspiratorial to me.
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| Even if it is found to be true that Puletua had a second contract, I wonder whether Salford would still have actually broken the cap last season. With Locke & Hock leaving mid way through the season I'd imagine that there would have been a fair amount of money free. Would adding the alleged £40k send us over the cap?
That's of course not to say that other players don't / didn't have similiar contracts! I guess the easy out for the RFL is to say the spirit of the cap was broken and fine Salford along with a 2 - 4 point deduction?
It seems the RFL have been investigating for three months already. I wonder whether now that it's in the public domain, the RFL might speed up the process.
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| Quote MikeTommo="MikeTommo"Even if it is found to be true that Puletua had a second contract, I wonder whether Salford would still have actually broken the cap last season. With Locke & Hock leaving mid way through the season I'd imagine that there would have been a fair amount of money free. Would adding the alleged £40k send us over the cap?
That's of course not to say that other players don't / didn't have similiar contracts! I guess the easy out for the RFL is to say the spirit of the cap was broken and fine Salford along with a 2 - 4 point deduction?
It seems the RFL have been investigating for three months already. I wonder whether now that it's in the public domain, the RFL might speed up the process.'"
The problem for Salford being they, by the sounds of the story, didn't report the 2nd contract to the RFL for salary cap management. If they did then it wouldn't be an issue as they'd have to have been under the cap for the contract and players registration to be lodged.
If they didn't report it, then it doesn't really matter whether they were under the cap or not. They attempted to conceal off-salary cap payments to a player.
Not to mention the only real reason for arranging to have 2 contracts for players is to avoid the salary cap.
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| According to wiki Puletua wasn't registered to play with Salford in 2015. This could explain why he didn't make a single appearance for Salford last year, especially considering the club went through an injury and suspension crisis and were forced to play a lot of academy kids. Subsequently he went to Hull KR and played 13 games for them.
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| Quote Mr Churchill="Mr Churchill"Agreed.
Just scrap the salary cap.
Replace it with a set scale of sanctions - points deductions, relegation etc for going into Adminisration or going bust - so everybody knows exactly where they stand from the off.'"
Are we admitting that the RFL are incapable of policing the salary cap
IF Salford, or ANY other club are abusing the system, they should be dealt with properly by the governing body.
Failure to do so, just encourages future abuse of any rules that are in place.
They should not be frightened of any club or individual and they have to be seen to be strong in these instances.
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| Are they strong though? Even if the rfl are pretty confident they will win, are they interested in a long expensive legal fight over an issue that doesn't actually affect the RFL?
Do the rfl and the game as a whole have an appetite to get in a complex legal wrangle to enforce it?
It's alright saying they shouldn't be frightened and should be seen to be strong, but Bradford were confident they would win the Harris case and sent out some strong messages. A couple of years and a few million later things weren't so rosy.
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| Quote theredshed="theredshed"According to wiki Puletua wasn't registered to play with Salford in 2015. This could explain why he didn't make a single appearance for Salford last year, especially considering the club went through an injury and suspension crisis and were forced to play a lot of academy kids. Subsequently he went to Hull KR and played 13 games for them.'"
Wasn't he deregistered as you had to lose one off your quota to sign someone else and as he was injured, he was the one who made way. Not sure whether this was 2015 or 2014.
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| Quote Dannyboywt="Dannyboywt"Yeah now the Super league can just be like premier League is for football. Brilliant 4 club comp can't wait.'"
Yeah because with a salary cap just how many teams have won SL??
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| Quote Him="Him"
If they didn't report it, then it doesn't really matter whether they were under the cap or not. They attempted to conceal off-salary cap payments to a player.
Not to mention the only real reason for arranging to have 2 contracts for players is to avoid the salary cap.'"
Maybe Salford need advice from Batley as to how to get let off breaching the Operational Rules (in Batley's case, fielding an ineligible player who scored the winning try in a match that led to Keighley and not Batley being relegated by one point in 2014).
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