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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "2015
Cas v Leeds 11,235 full house with people turned away at the gates, capacity lower than normal due to repairs of stand
Wigan v Saints 24,054 full house
Hudds v Salford 6003
Hull FC v HKR 20,507
Wakey v Cats 3015
Widnes v Wire 7768
2014
Wigan V Saints - 20224
Cas v Leeds - 9208
Hudds v Salford - 5681
Hull v KR - 18104
Widnes v Wire - 7158
Wakefield v Catalans - 4190
[size2015 Total 72,582
2014 Total 64,565[/size
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| Just think what the crowd would have been if the Leeds v Cas fixture would have been at Headingley?
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| Why do you always have to chime in Billy...............
Oh wait a minute. Sorry I saw someone posting about attendances and thought william eve was up to his usual tricks.
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| Round 9 like for like fixtures
Catalan v Widnes
2015 = 9588
2014 = 7000
Hull KR v Huddersfield
2015 = 7827
2014 = 8953
Leeds v Wakey
2015 = 17608
2014 = 13969
Salford v Wigan
2015 = 6561
2014 = 3706
Warrington v Cas
2015 = 8518
2014 = 8391
Saints v Hull FC
2015 = 11088
2014 = 13448
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| The Salford figure is surprising. Is that a turn around in home attendance or lots of over optimistic pies after a good friday win??
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| There were probably between 2,000 and 2,500 pies there so a definite increase on their numbers from last year. But interpolating the Salford numbers from that shows I would think an increase of somewhere between 800 and 1,500 on the home support. Combine that with the great following we took to Huddersfield and there is cause for a little cautious optimism.
Of course being 3rd in the table helps
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| I was wondering whether the performances where having an effect. Could be 2nd by next week.
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| Quote: loiner81 "And it doesn't stop there. Thought i'd best do a like for like too or jimlav will continue to call shenanigans....
2015
Cas v Leeds 11,235 full house with people turned away at the gates, capacity lower than normal due to repairs of stand
Wigan v Saints 24,054 full house
Hudds v Salford 6003
Hull FC v HKR 20,507
Wakey v Cats 3015
Widnes v Wire 7768
2014
Wigan V Saints - 20224
Cas v Leeds - 9208
Hudds v Salford - 5681
Hull v KR - 18104
Widnes v Wire - 7158
Wakefield v Catalans - 4190
[size2015 Total 72,582
2014 Total 64,565[/size'" I like how you don't see the fall you are setting yourself up for.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I like how you don't see the fall you are setting yourself up for.'"
Feel free to point it out. I haven't got all day to plait fog with you though.
Here's all the round 8 / 9 & Easter figures, feel free to twist them in any way you like.
Total attendance for round 8 in 2015 (6 games) Easter Total
Overall Easter total 2015 133772 / 12 Like For Like
Easter pt1. 2015 Total 72,582 / 6 = 12,097
Easter pt.1 2014 Total 64,565 / 6 = 10,760
Easter pt2 2015 Total 61,190 / 6 = 10,198
Easter pt2 2014 Total 55, 467 / 6 = 9,245
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| It doesn't matter which way you choose to compare them it will still be an incorrect comparison so why bother? It's pointless and tells you absolutely nothing. The only figure which matters is the one at the end because all these bits and bobs you and others are picking and choosing to suit will be evened out.
Wherever people think they are 'gaining' this week will be lost another.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It doesn't matter ...
Wherever people think they are 'gaining' this week will be lost another.'"
Exactly right, ATEOTD this year's total attendances will be identical to last year's which will be identical to the year before etc etc etc. They always have been. If you check back and see apparent difference, that's just because wherever people think they are 'gaining' one year will be lost another year. Yes, i know you may point to trends over decades, but if you check, wherever people think they are 'gaining' one decade will be lost another decade. I think this must logically be true for centuries as well.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "It doesn't matter which way you choose to compare them it will still be an incorrect comparison so why bother? It's pointless and tells you absolutely nothing. The only figure which matters is the one at the end because all these bits and bobs you and others are picking and choosing to suit will be evened out.
Wherever people think they are 'gaining' this week will be lost another.'"
No, you're wrong.
By doing a weekly round by round comparison rather than like for like we can see that crowds this year, up to round 9 are UP and come the end of 2015 the crowds will be UP on last year.
It's not rocket science and should be celebrated, but this is RLFans of course, so posts like yours, Jimlav and the rest of the glass full of urine brigade are to be expected.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Exactly right, ATEOTD this year's total attendances will be identical to last year's which will be identical to the year before etc etc etc. They always have been. If you check back and see apparent difference, that's just because wherever people think they are 'gaining' one year will be lost another year. Yes, i know you may point to trends over decades, but if you check, wherever people think they are 'gaining' one decade will be lost another decade. I think this must logically be true for centuries as well.'"
I think you have missed the point fa. In this instance it is true.
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| Quote: loiner81 "No, you're wrong.
By doing a weekly round by round comparison rather than like for like we can see that crowds this year, up to round 9 are UP and come the end of 2015 the crowds will be UP on last year.
It's not rocket science and should be celebrated, but this is RLFans of course, so posts like yours, Jimlav and the rest of the glass full of urine brigade are to be expected.'"
I don't know whether they will be up at the end of the year. The averages certainly will. It would be an absolute disaster I'd they weren't. But that is what happens to averages when you take two of the lower figures out of your data. In fact for averages just to stay the same attendances at the 12 clubs still in SL would need to fall by about 600 each.
If you do week by week comparison you will see that the fixtures don't match and all you are proving is some games get different attendances than others. Comparing Wigan v Saints against a Wigan v Les Catalans attendance from last year doesn't prove a rise or fall. Simply that Wigan v Saints is better attended than Wigan v Les Catalans. It also doesn't help you push your agenda because at some point further on in the season you are going to be looking at a big fall week on week as you compare whatever game it corresponds to this year against Wigan v Saints last year.
Similarly like for like won't give you an accurate comparison because of the million and one variables around a single comparison.
Come round 22 we will have had a regular season and we will know whether more people watched the 22 games last year or this. And we can be almost certain that there will not be a huge difference. We can also be almost certain some will want to push averages because they should be higher because of losing two lower than average attended clubs. Others can push aggregate totals because more clubs and more games will mean that will show a fall. Neither of those will tell us anything.
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