If that actually happened, then logic (not your strong point) would suggest that the crowd was massively underestimated by the ground talliers.

Pot calling kettle if ever I heard it.

I'll bet there not only you and me who pick up on that one

the logic is that we turned up in numbers, due to a promotion with Jungle.com, the stand allocated for Cas was packed, and as usual the other 2,& 7/8ths were empty terraces, nothing unusual about that, they play at a RU ground, in the middle off god nose how many RU grounds, and more than enough Football Grounds, the support is not there, in the winter its RU, & football, in summer its Cricket & RL, but support for RL is poor to say the least, when they play away its like the kids book wheres Wally,when looking for there fans, London is saturated with sport & RL, is not welcome, i wish it was, but they need more than 2500 to 3000 attendances on game day, RL is struggling to keep well known northern clubs heads above water, but all you hear is expansion, theres been that much hot air blown in to that bubble it cant be far of bursting

I can only presume that you mean Harlequins RU by "landlords". Yes they did this against a backdrop of clubs doing this same across the country and they did it in an area where rugby union was popular. Broncos have to do it when attendances are going up slowly if at all and their local area has neither heard of or gives a cr4p about RL.

It is easy to slag off Bronquins but they've had several changes of ownership and none have got close to what you suggest. I don't think that Brisbane Broncos know nothing about running a rugby league club. Nor do I think that Richard Branson is incapable of generating publicity.

Castleford, 8,067...year, 2000.

By the way......100 coaches at 45 seats a pop is 4,500.......urban myth by the way......Jungle.com paid for 48 coaches....but keep up the good work

Why can people not accept the fact we are a regional sport, embrace the fact.

One aspect that doesn't seem to get much of a mention here are the numbers playing RL in the south east at junior level and there has been a significant increase in the no of junior clubs and kids participating in RL.
These are the people who should be targeted as the growth area for supporter numbers and although i.m sure that work is being done in this area, surely its a case of encouraging kids to watch and hopefully they will persuade somebody to take them. Equally where any schools are participating in league, then dosh some freebies around and do something to encourage them to come back.

What's even more laughable from my POV is that the places the expansionist zealots want us to expand into are often far smaller than the much maligned M62 corridor!

The M62 corridor has a bigger population than Scotland, Ireland and Wales combined. Where as places like Batley and Rochdale are far bigger than most of the French village teams touted for SL.

We should spend the next 10 years consolidating and strengthening what we already have and kick the Smokeys and their silly and expensive dreams into touch. Sort the back office out first as Wayne Bennett says.

But what would a silly stereotype like me or you know.

My sentiments exactly, but we are mere flatcappers.

I would have more sympathy with "flatcappers" if they didn't take the opportunity to try and tear down the work of those in non-traditional areas. The continual reinvention of the past and mythical golden eras doesn't help either.

Rugby League fans should stop the continual self-loathing and remember that expansion vs heartlands isn't a zero-sum game.

But surely the RL need to realise that expansion such as Crusaders and in a way with London hasn't worked. Yes, London have a good community set up but how many of them kids and family eventually go to watch London. They would probably rather watch the numerous footie teams around London. They have even tried Kent 30 odd years ago, it never worked then and unfortunately i dont think will work now.