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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"O’loughlin is 29 and has fewer caps than Tomkins, Where has this ‘guaranteed to start and play 80mins’ myth come from?
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The fact that whenever he's been fit, he's started at LF. The reason he has fewer caps is injuries. I can't remember when he has been left out of the squad at the coaches discretion. |
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| Quote Him="Him"I'd choose O'Loughlin for now. Cracking LF and a couple of years younger than Sinfield. If Sinfield were 2 or 3 years younger I'd pick him, confident that he's just in a patch of bad form, but he's nearly 32 and currently not playing well enough to be picked. I'd tell Brough and Lomax that (barring injury) they'll be the halves for the World Cup with O'Loughlin as Captain, Roby as hooker & Tomkins at full back, and use the remaining year and a bit to get the team playing in 1 style. So everybody knows what they're doing, and anyone who has to come into the squad just slots in to the existing setup.
As much as I think Ellis, Graham & Burgess are cracking players, I don't particularly see them as captains, there is a lot more to the role of captain than just what happens on the pitch and I'd rather not run the risk of adversely affecting their game by loading them with the captains responsibility when O'Loughlin seems to shoulder that burden so well at Wigan.
In my opinion the World Cup squad should be:
1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Brough
7. Lomax
8. Mossop
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin (C)
14. Burrow
15. Crabtree
16. LMS/Carvell
17. Hock
I know that's leaving out Widdop and Reed but whilst I think they're both good players, and could maybe be in the larger squad as backup, I think it's important for the halves to use the opportunity of the mid-season camps and games to play together and for the team to get used to a system.'"
No Burgess? Leaving out the number 6 from the current best team in the world? Leaving out one of the form centres in the NRL? You must be mad.
Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Atkins
Hall
Widdop/Lomax
Brough
Burgess
McIlorum
Mossop
Ellis
Westwood
Lockers
Roby - IMPACT
Hock - IMPACT
Graham - IMPACT
Crabtree - IMPACT
That is a fantastic side IMO. With enough time together I think we could make the final against Aus and have a real go at them. I would just hate to see us crash out at the SF stage.
Just stay well clear of players who have been tried and failed at international level like Sinfield especially! I just can't see our coach picking a team like that though! |
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| Quote Him="Him":co90vbzc
Leaving out the number 6 from the current best team in the world? Leaving out one of the form centres in the NRL? You must be mad.
Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Atkins
Hall
Widdop/Lomax
Brough
Burgess
McIlorum
Mossop
Ellis
Westwood
Lockers
Roby - IMPACT
Hock - IMPACT
Graham - IMPACT
Crabtree - IMPACT
That is a fantastic side IMO. With enough time together I think we could make the final against Aus and have a real go at them. I would just hate to see us crash out at the SF stage.
Just stay well clear of players who have been tried and failed at international level like Sinfield especially! I just can't see our coach picking a team like that though!'"
Sinfield is the 6 for the best team in the World! Only Leeds can officially claim to be the best club side in the world!! |
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| Quote Warrior-Till-I-Die="Warrior-Till-I-Die"If McNamara had any sense, he'd realise Roby has been the 2nd best hooker this year in SL to McIllorum, and that should rule him out for being captain.
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Roby is world class and has been for 5 years, Mclllorum is just a form player over this season. Roby to be vice captain for me. |
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Tomkins
Charnley Goulding Reed Hall
Widdop Brough
Graham Mcllorum Mossop
Ellis Westwood
Burgess
Roby, Hock, Crabtree, O'loughlian
Ive changed my mind over the captaincy now, and would give it to Ellis!!
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I don't think a captain should be named. The England team should be picked on current form and ability. If you select a captain he is guaranteed selection which IMO should not be the case.
I would select a leadership group of 5 players who are likely to be around the squad and select the captain on a game by game basis. If one or more of the group need to be dropped due to poor form then others are ready to step in.
Something like
Graham
O'loughlin
Roby
Ellis
Tomkins
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Lockers should be the captain but I think it may be roby/tomkins.
And my line up for the world cup would be
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Jack Reed
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Hock
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin (C)
14. Lee Mossop
15. Luke Burgess
16. Ben Westwood
17. Mike McIlorum
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| Quote rover49="rover49"Got to be an experienced skipper who will be around for a while and can get to all the training weekends, this rules out Graham. Sinfield IMO does not warrant a place in the 13. I would have O'Loughlin as skipper.'"
Hw does it rule Graham out? He's 26, with experience at every level of the game. He's seems the obvious candidate. |
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| Quote Newton-Le-willows-Warrior="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"Lockers should be the captain but I think it may be roby/tomkins.
And my line up for the world cup would be
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Jack Reed
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Hock
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin (C)
14. Lee Mossop
15. Luke Burgess
16. Ben Westwood
17. Mike McIlorum'"
Agree with the back line.
In the pack I'd go for:
Graham
Roby
Mossop
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess
Bench:
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A full strength England pack is mouthwatering
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Hw does it rule Graham out? He's 26, with experience at every level of the game. He's seems the obvious candidate.'"
Cos he can't be here for any mid season games? Or the training camps? |
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