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| Quote REVENUE="REVENUE"Connor has many skills but is let down big time with his lack of pace and his inability to control his mouth. He isn't in my opinion a full back but hasn't really shown any coach where his best position is..'"
For me he hasn’t been developed properly. He had the raw talent but at the point in his career where he should have been really concentrating on cementing a position and making it his own, he was flirting between many positions and allowed to just continue to “wing it”. He has never matured as a player so the raw skill exists but without the refinement it should have by now.
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| Quote jools="jools"For me he hasn’t been developed properly. He had the raw talent but at the point in his career where he should have been really concentrating on cementing a position and making it his own, he was flirting between many positions and allowed to just continue to “wing it”. He has never matured as a player so the raw skill exists but without the refinement it should have by now.'"
You're still upset he turned his back on you, aren't you. He doesn't choose where he plays, he plays where the coach tells him too and this player has the ability to win matches on his own and has proved it. Of course he'll make mistakes as does every player in every club but we forgive him for that because his positives are far greater than his negatives.
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| Obviously this would come down to who is fit at the end of the season.
My FB for England would be Tomkins. He’s still imo the best we’ve got.
After that there’s a number in contention.
Jake Connor is good and has proven against NZ he can step up to the international game. Imo it will come down to whether he fits in with the culture that Wane is trying to create with England.
100% Welsby should be in the squad, whether he makes the team im not sure, we’ll see how he goes for the rest of the season. Great young player and versatile which is invaluable.
Ratchford and Widdop are both good options, the latter has done well in the past but both are in poor form in a struggling Warrington side. Plenty of time for that to change though.
I’m a big fan of Niall Evalds, very underrated imo.
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| Quote jools="jools"For me he hasn’t been developed properly. He had the raw talent but at the point in his career where he should have been really concentrating on cementing a position and making it his own, he was flirting between many positions and allowed to just continue to “wing it”. He has never matured as a player so the raw skill exists but without the refinement it should have by now.'"
Maybe, playing in a relatively poor FC side has hampered his development ?
He has some sublime skills, as good as we have in SL but, so often his frustrations get the better of him.
No question that he has the ability but, his temperament is the issue.
A really good coach should be able to maximise his abilities.
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| Quote Trainman="Trainman"Obviously this would come down to who is fit at the end of the season.
My FB for England would be Tomkins. He’s still imo the best we’ve got.
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Is he though? When was the last time he had a half decent game? He was awful through the second half of last season and is playing like he's about 40 now. He must be playing with an injury and seems to miss more than he plays at the moment.
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| Sadly folks turns out I was right
Dave and the other fc fans have realised Connor isn't even Hull FCs best full back now
I mean I've been trying to tell them for months 
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| Welsby will be England’s full back. He’s head and shoulders above every other full back in SL it’s not even close
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy"Sadly folks turns out I was right
Dave and the other fc fans have realised Connor isn't even Hull FCs best full back now
I mean I've been trying to tell them for months
'" Of all the hundreds of players in the league that needs their rugby ability questioning, Jake Connor would be towards the back of the queue. At least start with someone who's not producing the odd sign of quality every now then. There's so much worse than Jake Connor to choose from.
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| Quote Thetalentboy="Thetalentboy":3kts1bl2Sadly folks turns out I was right
Dave and the other fc fans have realised Connor isn't even Hull FCs best full back now
I mean I've been trying to tell them for months
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I mean I've been trying to tell them for months   '"
You don’t have “utility value” players in an international squad though. Yes he can play a number of positions to a good standard. But not the BEST standard and at international level that’s what you need. The BEST players in each position.
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| Quote jools="jools":12bxdr42No we haven't, still our best fullback, just our halfbacks are terrible.
As mentioned many times, Connor should be in the England squad, not the 17, but certainly the squad, not many players can play the positions he can to hs standard, offers great utility value and has played well at international level. Better than a few players in the squad IMO.
Welsby or Sam T should be at FB.'"
Apart when he looked great at international level playing both centre and stand off against NZ?
Then there is Sarginson in the squad, who is pretty much a utility player and no where near the class of Connor in any position.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Is he though? When was the last time he had a half decent game? He was awful through the second half of last season and is playing like he's about 40 now. He must be playing with an injury and seems to miss more than he plays at the moment.'"
When fully fit, yes. Just my opinion of course, as he’s a former Wigan player I have no doubt your opinion will differ.
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