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| Quote Leigh_Manning="Leigh_Manning"Yes, the PL do!'"
Best tell that to some of the clubs then, because there's plenty that have people spending a lot of time sorting this sort of thing out. I'm sure they'd much rather get the PL to do it all for them.
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"Best tell that to some of the clubs then, because there's plenty that have people spending a lot of time sorting this sort of thing out. I'm sure they'd much rather get the PL to do it all for them.'"
How do you think OS players get work permits so quickly?
You not heard of the PL governance and compliance department?
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| Quote pandamonium="pandamonium"Yada, yada, yada.,....'"
Sorry New Canoeman (with your three or four posts (might be ton up before this is typed)). You seem to be "muxing ip" PanDEMONium with Pantomime Dame. A pandamonium is a little known mouth organ like instrument of Chinese origin made from the drilled out teeth of an, increasingly endangered, ursine species of said region.
In your haste to create controversy hereupon, please try not to get your mucking furds woddled. 
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| Quote Leigh_Manning="Leigh_Manning"How do you think OS players get work permits so quickly?
You not heard of the PL governance and compliance department?'"
Firstly, that applies to players coming to the UK, it doesn't apply to players travelling for fixtures overseas. That's still the responsibility of the clubs.
Most PL clubs can pay the premium for the Home Offices fast track service.
And whilst the PL does have a governance and compliance department, it is there to ensure that the clubs are being compliment with eligibility rules. It doesn't do the club's work for them.
All of the above is missing the point anyway. Getting a visa to travel to Canada is not a difficult process. It is something that many employers have no issue with. It should not, therefore, be too much of an issue for what are, at the end of the day, established sporting organisations.
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"Firstly, that applies to players coming to the UK, it doesn't apply to players travelling for fixtures overseas. That's still the responsibility of the clubs.
Most PL clubs can pay the premium for the Home Offices fast track service.
And whilst the PL does have a governance and compliance department, it is there to ensure that the clubs are being compliment with eligibility rules. It doesn't do the club's work for them.
All of the above is missing the point anyway. Getting a visa to travel to Canada is not a difficult process. It is something that many employers have no issue with. It should not, therefore, be too much of an issue for what are, at the end of the day, established sporting organisations.'"
Getting a visa is a problem if you have any kind of criminal record though and if 2 or 3 players have had issues, they wont be able to travel.
You would expect that SL clubs will be more organised with travel/ visa's etc but, time will tell.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Getting a visa is a problem if you have any kind of criminal record though and if 2 or 3 players have had issues, they wont be able to travel.
You would expect that SL clubs will be more organised with travel/ visa's etc but, time will tell.'"
That's the same in any walk of life. A criminal record makes things that little bit more difficult. If that's a hassle that the clubs want to take on when they recruit players with these sorts of records, that's on them.
It's probably the reason Ryan Bailey was always "injured" when Leeds held warm weather training in Florida.
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| Quote Ste100Centurions="Ste100Centurions"I fear for you when you have to sit your SAT's.'"
It’s ‘SATs’. There’s no apostrophe in the plural.
You’re welcome.
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"That's the same in any walk of life. A criminal record makes things that little bit more difficult. If that's a hassle that the clubs want to take on when they recruit players with these sorts of records, that's on them.
It's probably the reason Ryan Bailey was always "injured" when Leeds held warm weather training in Florida.'"
It’s not as simple as that quite a few people who have a criminal record see sport as giving them a second chance to get there behaviour in a better place.
If the tolerance level for criminality in Canada is a lot less than the tolerance level in the UK then it’s a lot of unfair hassle from the Toronto end of things.
We have a similar thing in reverse with the Catalans who can sign up troubled players who can’t get a work permit here in the UK.
If the Catalans have say 3 or 4 players of this type and have to play Toronto in Canada without these players I,m pretty sure they would kick up a stink within the super league framework.
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"It's probably the reason Ryan Bailey was always "injured" when Leeds held warm weather training in Florida.'"
In fairness, Bailey's record of attending cold weather training wasn't a whole lot better.
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"In fairness, Bailey's record of attending cold weather training wasn't a whole lot better.'"
Bailey was on the Wolfpack roster last year and played only eight games for the club. On May 30, 2017, he refused to provide urine and blood samples for drug testing and he didn't play for Wolfpack for the rest of the 2017 season. His case wasn't resolved until January 2018, and he was canned later that month along with Dave Taylor and Fui Fui after their high jinks at training camp in Portugal.
Bailey's record all-round isn't particularly inspiring.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"It’s not as simple as that quite a few people who have a criminal record see sport as giving them a second chance to get there behaviour in a better place.
If the tolerance level for criminality in Canada is a lot less than the tolerance level in the UK then it’s a lot of unfair hassle from the Toronto end of things.
We have a similar thing in reverse with the Catalans who can sign up troubled players who can’t get a work permit here in the UK.
If the Catalans have say 3 or 4 players of this type and have to play Toronto in Canada without these players I,m pretty sure they would kick up a stink within the super league framework.'"
Only one Barrow player had visa issues on last weekend's visit. According to a Barrow player, they were short due to one visa issue, one ineligible loan player (Pownall), two with work commitments, one banned and nine injuries.
Once again, if your player has a criminal record, start the visa application early and use the professional immigration consultant.
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| Quote pandamonium="pandamonium"Only one Barrow player had visa issues on last weekend's visit. According to a Barrow player, they were short due to one visa issue, one ineligible loan player (Pownall), two with work commitments, one banned and nine injuries.
Once again, if your player has a criminal record, start the visa application early and use the professional immigration consultant.'"
If you have a criminal record, possibly that information is more privy to the person concerned rather than one game in Canada.
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