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| Quote: Starbug "I think my ' sniper ' idea would be great'"
We don't have enough quality players as it is. You want to shoot them? I'm not sure that's a forward thinking plan.
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| Quote: littlerich "We don't have enough quality players as it is. You want to shoot them? I'm not sure that's a forward thinking plan.'"
Ryan Bailey perhaps ?
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| Quote: Starbug "Ryan Bailey perhaps ?
Ooooh yes. Gatling gun for tradition?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Wouldnt work with offside imo. Could do with slowing down at the PTB but offside should be a penalty.'"
Well these are the reasons they're trialled I suppose.
I think, as someone else mentioned, that there should be different weights of penalty for technical offences and foul play. Technical offences being a tap penalty, and foul play being a full penalty (then there's the differential penalty for scrum offences as well).
Quote: SmokeyTA "But with regards to the 20/40, how many 40/20 kicks have you seen go the wrong side of the try line? it is very rare, the bigger issue kickers face is getting the distance, and getting the angle to actually bounce and go out of play. I dont think I have seen a ball kicked from the behind the forty and it bounce and go dead behind the try line so i dont think the fact the area they need to hit is 40 metres instead of 20 will make a whole lot of difference.'"
Being a Hull fan, I haven't seen many 40/20s this year!
Having a bigger target area allows for a bigger angle. If they're going to allow a 20/40s then why not 30/30s, 10/50s and 50/10s?
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| What do you think of the new rules being trialled in the all-star game down under...
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| That 6 to go rule sounds like the only one with any legs to me. I think that could well catch on in the next 5 years. The power play bit is stupidly gimmicky.
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| The details of the actual rule are not clear, e.g. can you just neutralize it by making your pick at the same time so it is 11 v 11. How will it be signalled? Maybe something NFL the coach throws a flag down? In which case do we get a video ref decision if both coaches do it at the same time?
Will be interesting to watch to see which players get picked and how the teams react. But, yes, a bit gimmicky.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "In the NRL's February All Stars game the following rule changes will be trialled
1. Appalling. Stupidest idea ever. I can think of a dozen reasons off the cuff why it's a bad idea; but let's go with just one. I'm coaching a team playing against Thurston (or pick other key playmaker). Call powerplay on my first posession, and don't even attemp to score. Just use the 5 minutes to run my forwards at Thurston every play. Make him make 20 tackles in 5 minutes and effectively remove him from the game.
2. Hmmm. Why not. Let's give the refs a soft option rather than making them actually penalise illegal play.
3. Fine. Let's just kick the ball away any chance we get. Oh, wait; that's why Southern Hemisphere Union is known as kick-n-clap. Boring much?
I see no merit in any of them.
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| No 2 has some potential imo. From a technical infringement I’d give the non offending side the choice of a) taking a tap & resetting the tackle count, or b) kicking for touch & continuing the tackle count. Early in the tackle count sides may opt to take the metres from a kick, late in the count they’d probably opt for another set.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wildmoose "No 2 has some potential imo. From a technical infringement I’d give the non offending side the choice of a) taking a tap & resetting the tackle count, or b) kicking for touch & continuing the tackle count. Early in the tackle count sides may opt to take the metres from a kick, late in the count they’d probably opt for another set.'"
A ' Technical ' infringement ? , you mean ' Cheating ' ? , deliberate cheating ?
Do we want to change the rules to encourage deliberate cheating ?
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| Quote: Starbug "A ' Technical ' infringement ? , you mean ' Cheating ' ? , deliberate cheating ?
Do we want to change the rules to encourage deliberate cheating ?'"
Offending team would still be penalised. How does this encourage them to cheat?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Well these are the reasons they're trialled I suppose.
I think, as someone else mentioned, that there should be different weights of penalty for technical offences and foul play. Technical offences being a tap penalty, and foul play being a full penalty (then there's the differential penalty for scrum offences as well).
'" If you had a tap penalty or wiping of the count for both holding down and offside, anytime anyone made a break you would simply hold them down until the ref wiped the count, then the team mate next to you can tackle the player from an offside position (because they can just hang around the ruck) wipe the count again, lay on, wipe the count. Meanwhile the defensive line organises itself and any advantage has been lost yeah you can give a penalty in that situation but we give a penalty for just one of those offences now. The point the wiping of the count rather than tap penalty would be to speed up the game and allow refs to be more consistent on judging those offences. We would lose that by allowing offside players to be punished with a wiping of the count.
Quote: Wellsy13 "Being a Hull fan, I haven't seen many 40/20s this year!
Having a bigger target area allows for a bigger angle. If they're going to allow a 20/40s then why not 30/30s, 10/50s and 50/10s?'"
It does allow for a bigger angle, but not really in a significant way. And the angle itself isnt significant anyway. If a player kicks the ball from the behind the 20 and it goes out beyond the oppositions 20 its a 40/20 anyway.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
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But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
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So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
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| Quote: Wildmoose "Offending team would still be penalised. How does this encourage them to cheat?'"
Because you are reducing the penalty , the problem isn't with the rules , they are fine , it's the application of them that the Aussies have a problem with , they dont like to be penalised for cheating , they moan about refferee's applying the laws of the game to their superstar athlete's
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| Quote: Starbug "Because you are reducing the penalty , the problem isn't with the rules , they are fine , it's the application of them that the Aussies have a problem with , they dont like to be penalised for cheating , they moan about refferee's applying the laws of the game to their superstar athlete's'"
Don't agree. I think this is an area that needs to be looked at. If we weren't prepared to change things up a bit to see what does / doesn't work we'd still be playing union.
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