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| Ellis has gone ok.
I think he is getting a wrap from some commentators because they didn't expect much and have been surprised by his consistency.
His Stats have him similar to most second rowers in the comp no better or worse.
26 tackles a game
8 hit ups
0.72 offloads
2.5 missed tackles
In comparison Nathan Hindmarsh.
39 tackles a game
9 hit ups
2.2 offloads
1.89 missed tackles
Just randomly looking at other players like Watmough, Stewart, Parker Learoyd Lahrs all have figures of equal value some have less tackles and more metres made, it depends on the role they play in the team, the style of player and how much game time they get.
Ellis plays plenty of minutes each games so should have good averages.
Good player who has a go and is well liked by the fans.
He should improve more in his second season and offer more in attack.
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| Put the stats away....they can lie and draw you into making bad statements.
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| Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"Ellis has gone ok.
I think he is getting a wrap from some commentators because they didn't expect much and have been surprised by his consistency.
His Stats have him similar to most second rowers in the comp no better or worse.
26 tackles a game
8 hit ups
0.72 offloads
2.5 missed tackles
In comparison Nathan Hindmarsh.
39 tackles a game
9 hit ups
2.2 offloads
1.89 missed tackles
Just randomly looking at other players like Watmough, Stewart, Parker Learoyd Lahrs all have figures of equal value some have less tackles and more metres made, it depends on the role they play in the team, the style of player and how much game time they get.
Ellis plays plenty of minutes each games so should have good averages.
Good player who has a go and is well liked by the fans.
He should improve more in his second season and offer more in attack.'"
Good assessment
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| Quote The Glorious League Freak wrote: You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs NZ matches these days is to watch all these convicts they build up get Owned™ so badly.
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| Quote The Glorious League Freak="The Glorious League Freak"Put the stats away....they can lie and draw you into making bad statements.'"
He is having a go though Mate and you cant honestly say that he is doing poorly.
He has slotted in better than most imports and better than quite a few Aussies that have gone to England and struggled with the different conditions and lifestyle.
I have seen a couple of interviews he has done and he comes across as a pretty good bloke.
Give him credit for taking the chance I reckon.
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| ellis is playing so much better than morley did in his first year.
and the tigers are a poorer side than the chooks were back then imo.
with keith galloway hes their best forward. and galloway has missed loads of games.
if he keeps improving and gets the attacking side down pat, he will be a better player than morley
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| I can't believe this thread has gone on this long.
The facts are as follows.
Ellis is a very ordinary player.
Ellis plays for an average club.
Ellis is not very good.
Ellis will be back in the UK soon.
Ellis will return to Superleague a better player after playing in the worlds best league amongst the worlds best players.
Lets end this thread right here and move on ok??
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie="Barry_McKenzie"I can't believe this thread has gone on this long.
The facts are as follows.
Ellis is a very ordinary player.
Ellis plays for an average club.
Ellis is not very good.
Ellis will be back in the UK soon.
Ellis will return to Superleague a better player after playing in the worlds best league amongst the worlds best players.
Lets end this thread right here and move on ok??
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So ordinary players are not very good? Ordinary players are just that, you've contradicted yourself there.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"So ordinary players are not very good? Ordinary players are just that, you've contradicted yourself there.'"
'Ordinary' is just that.
Ordinary.
Neither very good or very bad.
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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: I can't believe this thread has gone on this long deflecting attention from my threads.
The facts are as follows.
Barry_McKenzie is a very ordinary poster.
Barry_McKenzie supports an average club.
Barry_McKenzie is not very good.
Barry_McKenzie will be back at school soon.
Barry_McKenzie will return to school a better person having being owned so many times on English RL forums.
Lets end this thread right here and move on ok??
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More typo's corrected 
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| Quote The Glorious League Freak="The Glorious League Freak"You know the only reason I have any interest in Australia vs England matches these days is to watch all these Pommy players they build up get Owned™ so badly.
The effect only lasts about 2 or 3 weeks though, then it was just an off day, the ref hurt them, there was inter club rivalries at work and all that rubbish.
I always look back to the gold standard that was Stuart Fielden. They honestly believed he was the best in the world at a time when Shane Wbcke, Petero Civoniceva and the like were at their prime.
Shamed, demolished, dominated...game after game, but in their hearts these Poms said he was the best in the world.
At the time they were so up their own ar$es they actually gave Andrew Farrell an award and claimed he was the best player in the world!
These players all get found out. Every single last one of them. Even when they avoid test football as much as they can or scamper home from a tour.....all of them get found out.
Thing is, the Poms dont care. As long as these players are the best in their little northern town, no one cares.
Its why England is going backwards and why they were the 9th best team in a 10 team World Cup last year.'"
Post of the decade

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| Quote Barry_McKenzie wrote: Post of the facade '"
Flippin heck, more typo's. You lot really are going to have to get back to school quick and learn some English 
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