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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "David Argyle has been sacked as Chairman and CEO by...himself'"

I still await more of the holier than thou pitch fork brigade to want more blood.

It's a comment on poor taste. That doesn't make him a racist. There are racist comments/actions and racist people.
Racist comments and actions can happen through ignorance (i.e. not realising it's offensive or offending anyone).
Racist people know it's offensive and still choose to do it.

I'm sure many of us have said or done something that has been considered offensive and haven't realised it (or realised how offensive). To do it in a professional capacity is pretty poor, and has been a major error in judgement from David Argyle.

The guy has owned up to it. He hasn't hidden from it. He hasn't pretended he didn't say it or deny it or try and cover it up. He has now followed through with more than an apology and effectively left the club. What more do people want?

The club could now be in peril, but I assume that is what many people wanted anyway.

It's sad, because the RFL could easily have sorted this out had they actually investigated the matter when it was brought up and it wouldn't have had to come to this. It's shocking they didn't and perhaps some other people should be leaving their posts voluntarily for doing nothing when they had the power and responsibility to do everything.

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The RFL have serious questions to answer. Seems to me they was waiting for this to disappear quietly.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "I still await more of the holier than thou pitch fork brigade to want more blood.

It's a comment on poor taste. That doesn't make him a racist. There are racist comments/actions and racist people.
Racist comments and actions can happen through ignorance (i.e. not realising it's offensive or offending anyone).
Racist people know it's offensive and still choose to do it.

I'm sure many of us have said or done something that has been considered offensive and haven't realised it (or realised how offensive). To do it in a professional capacity is pretty poor, and has been a major error in judgement from David Argyle.

The guy has owned up to it. He hasn't hidden from it. He hasn't pretended he didn't say it or deny it or try and cover it up. He has now followed through with more than an apology and effectively left the club. What more do people want?

The club could now be in peril, but I assume that is what many people wanted anyway.

It's sad, because the RFL could easily have sorted this out had they actually investigated the matter when it was brought up and it wouldn't have had to come to this. It's shocking they didn't and perhaps some other people should be leaving their posts voluntarily for doing nothing when they had the power and responsibility to do everything.'"


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I think the player went too far by posting it on twitter, airing his dirty washing in public, enraging the social justice brigade and ruining a man's reputation. All over a relatively minor issue that was a bit naughty but could have been sorted behind closed doors. Absolutely no need for it.

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Quote: wire-flyer "

Victim blaming isn't cool.

The player did nothing wrong was and was correct in calling out racism.

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Quote: puroresu_boy "The RFL have serious questions to answer. Seems to me they was waiting for this to disappear quietly.'"
your absolutely correct on that account, the RFL dig another hole to fall in

the amount of delayed time has caused Kenga to speak out, going through the so called protocol hasn't fetched this to the public eye until now, another vote of no confidence for the RFL

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I'll just get it out the way first and say that it was wrong to say what he did, no matter how tongue in cheek he thought it was.

But I can't help but feel the backlash from fans would have been so much less if it was the other round and the Swinton chairman had made the comment to a Toronto player. People had a chip on their shoulder over Toronto the moment the club was announced and a lot of people are just rubbing their hands together at the thought of them failing. To me, Argyle has issued an apology (and even tried calling the player to apologise) and a suitable fine should be given and then end of story. I can't see the people who are demanding action against the whole club (and I've seen mention on here and also facebook about giving them points deductions) doing the same if it was the Swinton chairman. I bet a lot of people couldn't wait to get on the internet when this news broke for another round of Toronto bashing.

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Now I don't agree with that at all. If you feel wrong had been done and no justice has come of it, you certainly should speak out. Unfortunately the RFL had a duty of care here to not only Kenga but also David Argyle and the Toronto club as a whole and have failed so spectacularly that a man's reputation has been ruined, a club's major backer has had to leave (leaving them in potential peril) and the fans have been left torn again - all over something that should have been addressed behind closed doors immediately.

I'm sorry, but David Argyle isn't the person that should be voluntarily walking out of his role. The RFL have monumentally f'd this up - either through incompetence, through hope it would all just disappear or through not thinking it was that big a deal. I'm actually gutted about how bad this has turned out.

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Quote: wire-flyer "


Both good posts full of common sense not seen on social media in this day and age.

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Quote: Hasbag "I'll just get it out the way first and say that it was wrong to say what he did, no matter how tongue in cheek he thought it was.

But I can't help but feel the backlash from fans would have been so much less if it was the other round and the Swinton chairman had made the comment to a Toronto player. People had a chip on their shoulder over Toronto the moment the club was announced and a lot of people are just rubbing their hands together at the thought of them failing. To me, Argyle has issued an apology (and even tried calling the player to apologise) and a suitable fine should be given and then end of story. I can't see the people who are demanding action against the whole club (and I've seen mention on here and also facebook about giving them points deductions) doing the same if it was the Swinton chairman. I bet a lot of people couldn't wait to get on the internet when this news broke for another round of Toronto bashing.'"


This sadly is spot on. If it was the Swinton chairman saying it to a Toronto player it wouldn’t be getting the same level of interest from people wanting punishment especially a points deduction for Swinton.

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Just NO!!!!
Jose has done nothing wrong!
This could have actually all been sorted at the time it happened by apologising to Jose when called out about it immediately after it was said. Instead argyle laughed.
When it was reported, he still did not apologise.
The ONLY reason he’s apologised is because Jose went public. And the only reason he went public is because Argyle thought he could get away with it. Which suggests he’s not contrite at what he said at all!

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Torono owner has quit.

The question is.....where does that leave the funding of the Wolfpack?

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Quote: Gallanteer "Torono owner has quit.

The question is.....where does that leave the funding of the Wolfpack?'"


He’s stated he’s not withdrawing his funding.

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Quote: Gallanteer "Torono owner has quit.

The question is.....where does that leave the funding of the Wolfpack?'"


Based on the email I have received from David Argyle this morning the club is still going to move forward and remain committed to “growing this great game” (his words not mine).

So unlucky flat cappers. Toronto ain’t going anywhere

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It said in his statement that he'll fulfil his financial obligations with the club, so it sounds as if not much will change in that regard?

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Quote: ThePrinter "This sadly is spot on. If it was the Swinton chairman saying it to a Toronto player it wouldn’t be getting the same level of interest from people wanting punishment especially a points deduction for Swinton.'"


Sadly it isn't.
Sorting things behind closed doors or treating it as a one is why we still have racism in 2019.
He raised it through proper channels and let people know what he thought publically to make sure something happened.
I'm pretty sure everybody now knows it is wrong to make racist comments. Making them anyway and then brushing them off is giving strength to racists in general whether it was a one off or not.

Level of interest doesn't matter. It's still wrong.

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