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| Quote Him="Him"Whilst I have sympathy for Salford’s fans don’t try and blame your clubs situation on the RFL.
You didn’t sell The Willows because the RFL forced you to, you did because you desperately needed the money to pay players you couldn’t afford.
In the end, while the rent at the AJ Bell may be too high, the conditions may be rubbish, the stadium may be rubbish, Salford’s current situation is entirely of its own making.'"
I call Total B.S on this post !
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| Solutions anybody??
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Sorry, but not all of us have a more successful football team to scrounge off.'"
Soccer??
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| Quote SaleSlim="SaleSlim"Comedy gold!
The RFL are incapable of wiping their own fecking ar$e$ let alone capable of advising anyone else how to run their business. They're an absolute disgrace.'"
Agree 1000x. RFL don't deserve to run the sport they are destroying. RFL are probably owned by the RFU anyway....destroy the game from within.
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| Quote Him="Him"Whilst I have sympathy for Salford’s fans don’t try and blame your clubs situation on the RFL.
You didn’t sell The Willows because the RFL forced you to, you did because you desperately needed the money to pay players you couldn’t afford.
In the end, while the rent at the AJ Bell may be too high, the conditions may be rubbish, the stadium may be rubbish, Salford’s current situation is entirely of its own making.'"
As is every club..
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| Quote RLRealist="RLRealist"Solutions anybody??'"
Salford need to get out of the stadium contract and ground share with Salford City FC.......if that be in a lower tier then so be it, but the reality is tat the AJ Bell is a noose around their necks and 2k gates is London all over again.
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| If Salford are even close to bankruptcy they ought to be able to go to the stadium owners and negotiate a better deal. Stadia are ridiculously underutilised assets (one of the reasons IRRC why Widnes went for an artificial pitch to enable them to earn extra from it?) and losing the cornerstone tenant would probably lead to the stadium company itself going under or being flogged off for peanuts (to Sale?). Whilst its a nuclear type option, its not as though Salford, by essentially threatening to default, are completely powerless.
As an aside, whilst Salford and Widnes may be in difficulty, its not as though most sporting teams (from any code) make a profit. The RFU were concerned that only one premiership team made a profit last year (Exeter IIRC?). All the rest were dependent on ongoing cash from owners. SL is the same, so is the NRL, football's Championship is underwater to a mind-boggling degree across most clubs, with owners betting on getting into the Premiership. etc etc. In terms of ownership RL's problem compared to RU is that we don't have a whole bunch of upper class, mega wealthy potential buyers when any of our current owners pull up stumps.
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"If Salford are even close to bankruptcy they ought to be able to go to the stadium owners and negotiate a better deal. Stadia are ridiculously underutilised assets (one of the reasons IRRC why Widnes went for an artificial pitch to enable them to earn extra from it?) and losing the cornerstone tenant would probably lead to the stadium company itself going under or being flogged off for peanuts (to Sale?). Whilst its a nuclear type option, its not as though Salford, by essentially threatening to default, are completely powerless.'"
Maybe already been done? I can't imagine they've not already tried this if the costs are as prohibitive as claimed.
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"I'm not sure it's as bad as that. Wakefield continue to demonstrate that it's possible to be competitive in SL without paying over the top for superstars and also without a benefactor's input.
I just think that in quite a few cases, clubs just need to be smarter.'"
Yes your right but there is a crucial difference in that the state of BV means we can’t develop success like others can. Wakefield are a well supported club when you take that into account and are imo a true sleeping giant.
If BV were as good as Salford’s ground which imho isn’t great we’d be averaging 8k a game and getting much more corporate.
Salford is not in a hotbed of the game like we are and has always struggled. The move to the new ground was badly handled and a perfect example that money and facilities are not an answer in themselves.
It funny that the two SL clubs with the most real potential Cas and Wakefield are being held back by stadium issues yet perennial strugglers like Doncaster have a great stadium. Not there fault just pointing out the unfortunate position we are in.
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| As for Salford I hope they survive. I think RL fans get this all wrong. The aim of the game shouldn’t be to replace heritage clubs like Salford and Widnes with exspansion clubs. The aim should be to add these clubs to an already vibrant SL.
This is where the game has failed due to greed and short term thinking. Endless format changes and no real master plan on how to move forward. Even Tolouse and Toronto if you dig it’s all very adhoc - not so much from the clubs themselves but from the game. Who exactly is in charge of integrating these two new clubs into a fully professional league.
Other than the usual exspansionist drones on here surely we have learned by now that it takes more than just cash and a dream it takes vision and skill.
Is Arnold J Rimmer the man? I fear not.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"As for Salford I hope they survive. I think RL fans get this all wrong. The aim of the game shouldn’t be to replace heritage clubs like Salford and Widnes with exspansion clubs. The aim should be to add these clubs to an already vibrant SL.
This is where the game has failed due to greed and short term thinking. Endless format changes and no real master plan on how to move forward. Even Tolouse and Toronto if you dig it’s all very adhoc - not so much from the clubs themselves but from the game. Who exactly is in charge of integrating these two new clubs into a fully professional league.
Other than the usual exspansionist drones on here surely we have learned by now that it takes more than just cash and a dream it takes vision and skill.
Is Arnold J Rimmer the man? I fear not.'"
Well said sir
The vision and skill are attributes substantially lacking with those who are entrusted with the games growth/survival.
All of the changes in recent years have a strong whiff of desperation and hope, rather than a clear vision of what is actually needed to take the game forward.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Salford are in an almost no win situation. If you were designing a club to fail then taking it out of its core supporter base and dropping it in a place with poor accessibility would be the way to do it.
People want to go watch a game without having to plan for the logistics of arrival and departure.'"
sorry but for me that's a lame excuse, i travel 25 miles for a home game anyway, so to say home fans are only the walk up on the day ones is stupid, the stadium is not that far away from anywhere, and people quite happy to drive to the nearby trafford . look at NFL and to some extent NRL most teams stadiums are out of town. New york Giants don't even play in New York city or state. Patriots stadium is in the middle of nowhere. smack between Boston and Providence. Salford have poor support because they have poor support not because the stadium is 5 miles (if that) away from there last one. the rent arrangement is not good, but why no through there lot in with the Salford soccer club 8k capacity is it not, much better. bet the AJ stadium management will soon be trying to cut a better deal if Salford threaten to leave with a really viable alternative.
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