1: We'd already exiled Guuterfax to NZ, but he still wouldn't go away.
2: Given the state of the Irish economy, where's the money going to come from?

Fair point, it would definately have to come from a hugely rich private investor with money to put in for at least ten years.=" Given the state of the Irish economy, where's the money going to come from?'"

I think they need to concentrate on getting the grassroots up and running properly with a decent, competitive set up. Then after that is going bring in at least 1 Championship 1 teams and let them grow organically, don't force it.

I just hope we don't make the same mistakes we made with London, Wales and Gateshead.

What benefit would there have been to Welsh RL for us to be waiting another 3-7 years? Crusaders failed once, it was the crippling debt from south wales which forced the move north and the administration. once. But what do people think would have happened if we had kept them in the lower leagues for another 3-7 years?

Would that be the crippling debt through paying wages to Australians on dodgy visa,s and running a full time squad in the NL ,s , with crowds of 500 ?

Maybe so. So what benefit would there have been to have kept them in the NLs.

Less crippling debt than they are currently racking up paying a team full of Australians in front of crowds that will eventually dwindle

So the choice was to crippling debt playing in front of 3-4k and bringing in SL tv money, sponsorship and visibility, or crippling debt playing in front of 500 in a semi-pro competition, bringing in less sponsorship and having less visibility.

Seems like promoting them was the obviously correct choice doesnt it.

Or they could have been like the SWS , actually playing real Welsh RL players , the Wrexham experiment is basically Gatehead revisited , and it will end up the same way , long term it will achieve nothing

I agree. It is a different scenario to someone like crusaders aswell, whereby there will be much higher travel expenses. Roughyeds idea about an irish select team is a good one, but its going to be very difficult to properly fund any type of team to play in the championship or super league.

5 years is wildly optimistic. It will fall flat on its face if assembled to fit it in that timescale.

Why does playing actual real welsh players (whose development was largely funded by crusaders btw), playing in a poorer quality stadium, at a lower level, with less support, less visibility, less sponsorship mean that SWS are firstly 'better' than Crusaders and secondly more sustainable than Crusaders?

Especially when we remember that SWS were only formed because of what Crusaders had built before they moved to Wrexham.

You mean developed by the RFL funded Welsh RL , who's office just happened to be in Leighton Samuels premises , so in fact the RFL were actually paying Celtic Crusaders players as well as advising them about which Visas to use to get them into this country , that inquiry is taking a long time , how many years has it been ?