Yeah I know mate, bit daft if you ask me. If the seats are there, fill them up.

its because people arrive bang on kickoff and won't be able to see the odd spare seat in the middle of rows, causing congestion on the stairs.

I think its a good idea, but it could probably cope with only being 5% left empty and not 10%

there are rumours that Hull are to turn the east stand to completely reserved next year anyway, due to high season ticket demand.

If true

Impressive

How come there was only 20k at the KC when it looked packed out?

Good question Jonny.

The camera angle rarely panned to the Upper West Stand, the southern end of the Upper West was scarcely populated. Also there were empty blocks of seating at either side of the away end for crowd safety enforced segregation areas. The design of the KC took into account the prospect of RL falling below capacity but was designed to 'appear' fuller. The lower bowl of the KC holds approx 19k. In ordinary fixtures the upper tier is not used and therefore with an average of say 14k at the KC, it does not feel like we are rattling around when the separate upper tier is empty and often ignored by those at the stadium (and by TV cameras), I think it works and gives a feeling of a fuller stadium and promotes a better atmosphere. Other similar sized and top quality SL grounds such as Wigan and Huddersfield did not use this design feature and any large areas of empty seats are often exposed on TV. I also think it detracts from the atmosphere when there are large gaps between popular seating areas. We don't really have this at the KC as three sides are well populated by the home fans and if the opposition bring well over a thousand fans the atmosphere can be quite good as the stadium is then populated on all four sides.

PS. I think your stadium is wonderful and hope you get up in the SL soonest.

I saw the odd camera shot of the upper tier and it looked pretty full, as you know it's hard to sat but there were definately a few in there.

I've got to admit I love the design of the KC so that it always looks packed and has a good atmosphere, I didn't get chance to go up there in 2005 so i'm going to go to an England game there when we next have a game there.

Glad you like LSV.

kc's a great stadium.
I love Wigan though, the atmosphere tonight should be unreal

it also helps the atmosphere in that the 4 corners are filled in with seats rather than gaps between the stands (mind you we could do with losing chav corner

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You took the words right out of my mouth, the one thing I don't like about the DW is the very open corners. We don't have them filled in but there are a couple of structures where the screens go to cover two of them. I think I heard (may have dreamt it) that Warrington are going to fill in the corners at The HJ.

I have been to the KC a couple of times, and it is a brilliant stadium in my opinion, and really good atmosphere.

Salfords original plans had a stand like the one at the KC, not sure if they have kept to those plans.