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Quote: Buggo "Big Spiders crawling around your House? did you live in a Tent?
Were they Daddy Long Legs?
Sydney never gets much below 8C in Winter, you get some frosts on winter morning out past Parramatta.

You were in a Tent ?'"



I lived in a 800,000 dollar house which had no insulation and no double glazing and was cold in winter, I lived in Abbotsford in the inner west (a lovely suburb which I miss by the way) 8c without heating is quite cold.

Huntsmen spiders were regularly roaming round my house, not dangerous but not pleasant either.

Australia especially Sydney is a very expensive place to live, my wages are actually around 3 times higher in the UK than they were in Australia, I realise this will not be the case for everyone. Grocery shopping is ridiculously expensive over there and the choice is nowhere near as good as the UK (I live within 3 miles of around 4 farm shops selling great produce)

It is isolated from everywhere, where I live I can be in 10 different cities in just a relatively short car journey, In sydney you need to get (a quite expensive) internal flight to get to the next city of any merit, this would be even worse living in the West of Australia ( I got married in Western Australia, Ive no need to return)

By Culture I mean the arts, history, Architecture, Design etc etc, I agree Australias 'culture' is a far more modern one, I donot care for the beach and if your classing a BBQ as culture this is where we disagree.

Australia is indeed a melting pot but not one without its problems, casual racism is rife as is a sexist attitude which permeates through the media as well, the TV is just shocking, ABC is just about passable but the 'Aussie is the best in the world' stuff that comes out from the other networks is nauseating.

I moved back for many reasons, including Financial we are far far better off over here rather than having to worry about money this helps a great deal. I also just didn't see myself living there long term (which was the original plan) it wasn't for me, IMHO Australia has done a very good job in selling itself (as seen by posts on here by people that think its paradise without ever having been!) but in reality its just another first world country with all the problems associated with that. As for the weather I prefer the british climate, I hated the summer in Sydney and it never seemed to stop raining in the winter (it has more rainfall per year than Manchester), I also missed my friends and family which is something that people thinking of emigrating shouldn't underestimate. ATEOTD it wasnt for me but that is just my observations and whats right for me isn't right for another.

I absolutely love the UK, and moving away made me realise this a lot more and ir avnnoys me when people slag the place off having never lived somewhere else, the grass isn't always greener, sometimes its a weird shad of brown because the heat icon_wink.gif

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I'd rather be in Blackpool!

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Quote: SmokeyTA "That post contains the most bollox of any of yours yet. Well done, you have set the bar pretty high.

You should go back to complaining that an interview with Nigel Wood about the World Cup is, in what im sure is a shock to everyone, and completely unexplainable, headlined with a picture of Nigel Wood and the World Cup.'"

Your intelligence fails you again. I didn't complain that an interview with Nigel Wood had a picture of Nigel Wood in it. I complained that an image of Nigel Wood is not the first thing one should be seeing on the RLWC website. Your love for the man clouds your thinking.

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Quote: christopher "snip'"

I used to live with a girl whose friend and husband were strongly considering moving to Australia.
"I think we should do it." She said "We should move to Australia."
"Why?" I asked
"It would be amazing"
"Why?"
"Errrrrrr."
I do not live with her anymore.

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "I'd rather be in Blackpool!'"



As much as I'm glad I live in the UK now, that is pushing it, if i never go to Blackpool again it will be too soon.

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Quote: RLBandit "Your intelligence fails you again. I didn't complain that an interview with Nigel Wood had a picture of Nigel Wood in it. I complained that an image of Nigel Wood is not the first thing one should be seeing on the RLWC website. Your love for the man clouds your thinking.'"

You are wrong.

It wasnt put as a landing page on the RLWC website icon_lol.gif It was the latest article on the website. It was an interview with Nigel Wood, about the world cup. It just happened to be the last one uploaded when you happened to go on to the website. But your tery managed to exceed your usual level of asshattery and you decided to whine and moan about it.

Surely you cannot be as stupid as you first appear?

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Quote: christopher "I lived in a 800,000 dollar house which had no insulation and no double glazing and was cold in winter, I lived in Abbotsford in the inner west (a lovely suburb which I miss by the way) 8c without heating is quite cold.

Huntsmen spiders were regularly roaming round my house, not dangerous but not pleasant either.

Australia especially Sydney is a very expensive place to live, my wages are actually around 3 times higher in the UK than they were in Australia, I realise this will not be the case for everyone. Grocery shopping is ridiculously expensive over there and the choice is nowhere near as good as the UK (I live within 3 miles of around 4 farm shops selling great produce)

It is isolated from everywhere, where I live I can be in 10 different cities in just a relatively short car journey, In sydney you need to get (a quite expensive) internal flight to get to the next city of any merit, this would be even worse living in the West of Australia ( I got married in Western Australia, Ive no need to return)

By Culture I mean the arts, history, Architecture, Design etc etc, I agree Australias 'culture' is a far more modern one, I donot care for the beach and if your classing a BBQ as culture this is where we disagree.

Australia is indeed a melting pot but not one without its problems, casual racism is rife as is a sexist attitude which permeates through the media as well, the TV is just shocking, ABC is just about passable but the 'Aussie is the best in the world' stuff that comes out from the other networks is nauseating.

I moved back for many reasons, including Financial we are far far better off over here rather than having to worry about money this helps a great deal. I also just didn't see myself living there long term (which was the original plan) it wasn't for me, IMHO Australia has done a very good job in selling itself (as seen by posts on here by people that think its paradise without ever having been!) but in reality its just another first world country with all the problems associated with that. As for the weather I prefer the british climate, I hated the summer in Sydney and it never seemed to stop raining in the winter (it has more rainfall per year than Manchester), I also missed my friends and family which is something that people thinking of emigrating shouldn't underestimate. ATEOTD it wasnt for me but that is just my observations and whats right for me isn't right for another.

I absolutely love the UK, and moving away made me realise this a lot more and ir avnnoys me when people slag the place off having never lived somewhere else, the grass isn't always greener, sometimes its a weird shad of brown because the heat

No worries Chris.
Thanks for the honest reply.
You know when you complained about your mortgage payments? you did not have to borrow $800k that was your call.
You know Sydney gets most of its rain in Summer?
I mentioned outdoor living which included BBQ's
I am glad there is no racism in the UK
If 8C is cool in winter why did you not invest in a $20 fan heater? is that hard to do.
I have lived in several places and I believe you have to settle with an open mind, many English people do not work out in Australia because they complain how different it is, there are flies and its hot and its not the same as the Fox & Hounds in Oldham.
That is the reason they move isn't it?

Just out of interest what do you do for a Job that pays three times as much in the UK?

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Quote: Buggo "No worries Chris.
Thanks for the honest reply.
You know when you complained about your mortgage payments? you did not have to borrow $800k that was your call.
You know Sydney gets most of its rain in Summer?
I mentioned outdoor living which included BBQ's
I am glad there is no racism in the UK
If 8C is cool in winter why did you not invest in a $20 fan heater? is that hard to do.
I have lived in several places and I believe you have to settle with an open mind, many English people do not work out in Australia because they complain how different it is, there are flies and its hot and its not the same as the Fox & Hounds in Oldham.
That is the reason they move isn't it?

Just out of interest what do you do for a Job that pays three times as much in the UK?'"


I didnt borrow $800,000 the house was worth that, I borrowed half that, you have a look and see if you can get a nice 2 bedroomed house (not apartment) in a nice suburb for anything less than $500k housing is extremely expensive, not that Im complaining I did OK out of the Australian property bubble.

I never said there isn't racism in the UK, great strawman argument there. However casual racism (in the workplace and in the media) seemed far more prevalent in Australia to me, E.G the term WOG being used for some european people quite openly in conversation and on TV.

I dont know you, but you seem to be the typical 'pom' that cant quite understand why people don't just love Australia because it worked for them. The attitude of some Australians and English migrants for that matter when I said I was moving back to the UK was as if i'd sh@t on there door step, they just couldn't believe that anywhere was better than Australia to live, I find that strange but I liken Australia to a teenager (which it is in country terms) it seems to want to shout about how great it is whilst sticking its fingers in its ears and not listening, again this is just how I found it, I didn't want it to be like the UK and I didn't expect it to be, I went with an open mind but it wasn't the place for me.

Also I did have a fan heater and an electric blanket, it was cold in Winter as i said. I know its rains in the Summer, a lot!


As for work I am a Graphic Designer, but I now own my own business and as such my income has trippled to that of what I earned in Australia. If Im being fair I would say the average wage in Sydney is roughly around the same as it is here in my profession, but obviously in Sydney you have the more expensive living costs.

Australia is a wonderful country, and I may consider retiring out there one day, but I am just giving an honest opinion of what I found when living there, some people are very blinkered when it comes to Australia.

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Good stuff Chris.
Will they let you back in when you want to?
I hope they do not allow whining pommies to pick and choose when they can just arrive in a Country, too cold, too hot, too e.

English immigrants were once highly regarded, nowadays they would be near the bottom of the list, whining, unhappy, not like England.
The ones that stay and stop whinging are like the Gypsies of Australia, selling car stereos at traffic lights,
So I am told.

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That might that casual racism he was talking about

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Quote: Buggo "Good stuff Chris.
Will they let you back in when you want to?
I hope they do not allow whining pommies to pick and choose when they can just arrive in a Country, too cold, too hot, too poop.

English immigrants were once highly regarded, nowadays they would be near the bottom of the list, whining, unhappy, not like England.
The ones that stay and stop whinging are like the Gypsies of Australia, selling car stereos at traffic lights,
So I am told.'"


Im a permanent resident, so I can go back when I want if thats alright with you?

As for the rest of your post - I can see why you've integrated well with the Australians.

As for whining there is a real sense of irony when any Australian accuses an English person of whinging, they are the world leaders in it.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "That might that casual racism he was talking about'"



He is kind of proving my point for me icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "The 2 leagues of 10 seems to catch support because it offers solutions to things people have invented as our problems. It doesn’t actually address any of our actual real issues.

2 leagues of ten well not help produce more quality players, it will not get us a wider support base, it will not get us higher visibility as a game, it will not bring in better sponsors, it will not help spread the game, it will not help clubs challenge at the very top of SL, and it will not bring more money in to the game.

The league and the game needs to stop looking for a silver bullet, Franchising gives clubs the time and space to grow, they should get on with doing that. Get on with selling tickets, get on with selling a spectacle, get on with improving youth development, get on with improving their corporate departments. When we do that pretty much everything else will follow .'"


I find myself in the uncomfortable position of agreeing with pretty much all of that.

What I would add however, is that whilst franchising does indeed provide the framework within which clubs [ishould[/i be able to grow and prosper, to do so they are still required to be managed and run by competent people. Moreover, those competent people need to be overseen by an extremely robust governing body. As it stands, too many clubs are poorly run and the governing body appears to lack the courage of its convictions in terms of enforcing the franchising framework in a consistent way. Organisationally, there is a rather immature feel to the RFL, in that it lacks honesty about the things it gets wrong whilst making overblown claims about the things it gets right. I'm not advocating BBC style naval gazing and public flagellation, just honesty, a willingness to learn from mistakes and a bit of tough love in terms of allowing those clubs who insist on failing, to do so.

As for JP - I have terrific respect for him as a player; as a RL futurist - less so.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "You are wrong.

It wasnt put as a landing page on the RLWC website
I don't care if it was 'put as a landing page'. For a significant period of time, it was the first image people saw when they landed on the site. I couldn't give a flying whatever why it was like that. It just was. And embarrassing. Thankfully it seems to have gone now. Good. I hope you downloaded the picture to add to the little shrine you have behind that curtain.

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Quote: RLBandit "I don't care if it was 'put as a landing page'. For a significant period of time, it was the first image people saw when they landed on the site. I couldn't give a flying whatever why it was like that. It just was. And embarrassing. Thankfully it seems to have gone now. Good. I hope you downloaded the picture to add to the little shrine you have behind that curtain.'"

icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif Yes, we should all be embarrassed because you don’t like Nigel Woods suit. icon_lol.gif

I know you like a whinge, but Christ almighty, it’s a mans suit ffs,.

Its quite funny that you have spent your time over the past few days whining about a problem you made up and admit you have no idea whether or not it exists or is even a realistic possibility, and the fact you didn’t like Nigel Woods suit in a picture headlining an interview with him. That’s not normal. Its quite funny, but it isn’t normal.

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