FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > England squad named
241 posts in 17 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11032No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2020Mar 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4157.jpg
:4157.jpg



Quote: wakey_saint "Ah right so it's Sinfield's fault Chase was poor in 4N last year? Sorry I didnt realise...

If he was an international stand off, he would have got his hands on the ball regardless of Sinfield, yet for me it proved Chase is a big fish in a small pond at Cas and only stands out there because he is surrounded by players worse than him. If you put him into the Wigan side, he would be anonymous (just like he was for England last year) because the talented players such as Tomkins, Finch etc would by far overshadow him...big fish, small pond and not even English - shouldnt even be considered'"



icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2012Jul 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67564_1337603431.jpg
[b:lhk4n8al][color=#800000:lhk4n8al]RUGBY LEAGUE[/color:lhk4n8al][/b:lhk4n8al]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67564.jpg



Quote: Towns88 "Brough is in the team dipstick.'"


ooops mis red it plank

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach448No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2012Jun 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



No thought of K Whelham, D Hodgson, Scott Taylor
The squads a joke both Whelham and Hodgson have scored more this season in a supposedly inferior team, and Taylor's stats speak for themselves!!

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
755_1290430740.jpg
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21 A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_755.jpg



But they are ginners?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13938
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30366_1604259384.jpg
[color=#000000:3fno8grb]Rugby Union: When entertainment just isn't your thing. [/color:3fno8grb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30366.jpg



Quote: CM Punk "What a joke.'"


And it is a joke. It's a very funny joke.

Mike McIlorum - the form hooker of Super League. At the very fulcrum of the in-form, top of the league, Barcelona-esque Wigan side that have systematically annihiliated and humiliated Leeds & St.Helens in the space of two weeks yet the hookers for both sides - Burrow/Roby - get picked above him. Joke number one. icon_lol.gif

Joke number two: Leroy Cudjoe is picked above Darrell Goulding. Daz Goulding - red hot partnership with the most lethal on form combination in Super League with Josh Charnley who is the runaway leading try scorer in Super League who is looking to threaten the record of most tries in a season held by Lesley Vainikolo. Cudjoe (although not a poor player) is playing for a side that are on a complete downfall at the moment & statistically Daz blows him out the water playing his part in the on form team in Super League. icon_lol.gif

Joke number three: omitting Adrian Morley (bravo!) yet playing & naming Jamie Peacock as your captain. How can you correctly omit Morley but not Jamie Peacock? Why is a 34-year old out of form/past his best/ (Leeds fans will back me up here) get picked religiously as an automatic selection & not only that - he's made captain! icon_lol.gif

Joke number four: the fact McNamara ever omitted Ryan Atkins in the first place. icon_lol.gif

Joke number five: Carl Ablett/Jon Wilkin over Larne Patrick. Simple as that. icon_lol.gif

And the headline act is the Knights squad. Chris Hill? John Bateman? Also if Daz/McIlorum have areas they need to improve (Big Macca's words not mine) then surely the Knights squad is the place to do it? How have players like Chris Clarkson and Gary Wheeler got picked and them two London lads Dan Sarginson and Keiron Dixon not got picked? Elliot Whitehead? Even Matty Russell? Let's look to youth? icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13938
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30366_1604259384.jpg
[color=#000000:3fno8grb]Rugby Union: When entertainment just isn't your thing. [/color:3fno8grb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30366.jpg



Quote: connemara kid "no welham in either squad?'"


Surprised me too but for different reasons - the correct call for once.

Kris Welham can't defend to save his life. He might as well not be there. The ease in which Sam Tomkins just walked past him at the DW earlier this year was staggering. He just saw Sam and fell on his backside. Could you imagine Greg Inglis running at Kris Welham? They are so far apart as RL players it's like comparing Susan Boyle to Megan Fox. He's .

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12310
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
28396_1358365565.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_28396.jpg



Well McNamara's selections are baffling. As a Bradford fan not surprised at all.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach65No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Jan 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
48357_1263755365.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48357.jpg



No Rhys Lovegrove in either squad is beyond belief.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2088
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: cadoo "And the headline act is the Knights squad. Chris Hill? John Bateman? Also if Daz/McIlorum have areas they need to improve (Big Macca's words not mine) then surely the Knights squad is the place to do it? How have players like Chris Clarkson and Gary Wheeler got picked and them two London lads Dan Sarginson and Keiron Dixon not got picked? Elliot Whitehead? Even Matty Russell? Let's look to youth?
I mentioned that earlier on and have been having a nice little rant about it on another forum.

Looking at the Knights squad selected it begs the question; what exactly is the point of it?

Is it effectively a second string England team but only containing young players who might step up in the near future? The likes of Matty Smith, Stefan Ratchford, Zak Hardaker, Jonny Lomax etc suggest that it is, but then why does it include Lee Gaskell, Rhys Evans, Chris Clarkson etc who certainly aren't on the verge of England selection.

Likewise, if it's for players who could step up in the near future, where are the likes of Elliot Whitehead, Greg Eden, Luke George and more importantly some of the other players who haven't made the full England squad like Mike McIlorum and Darrell Goulding.

If it's strictly for young players with potential to be genuinely top quality then why not include the likes of Dan Sarginson, Gareth O'Brien, John Bateman, Ben Currie?

I don't think any player has been added to the Knights squad since it was first announced except those who have dropped down. Despite some excellent performances by young players they don't seem to be able to play their way into the squad ahead of players who haven't been playing regularly like Lee Gaskell and players who have been quite simply well below average like Chris Clarkson.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7649
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
17555_1637667680.png
Wigan RLFC:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17555.png



Quote: Barney Stinson "No Rhys Lovegrove in either squad is beyond belief.'"


Not really, he's an Aussie who declared for Scotland. icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach65No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Jan 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
48357_1263755365.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48357.jpg



Quote: CM Punk "Not really, he's an Aussie who declared for Scotland.
I know a scrum half who'll be upset to hear he won't be eligible

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2088
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: CM Punk "Not really, he's an Aussie who declared for Scotland.
Are you talking about Lovegrove or Ian Henderson? icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star1871No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2017Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51474_1275316988.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51474.gif



McNamara has completely lost the plot and should lose his job asap. This squad as in no way been picked on form and is a complete joke. I was going to go to the match next week but dont think I will bother now and will not waste my money again whilst this clown is in charge.

There are more than just a few players that do not deserve to be in the England squad. Most of the Leeds contingent immediately spring to mind and 6 players (the most from one club) from the team in ninth is laughable. Peacock, Sinfield, Burrow, Ablett and Jones-Buchanan are all either past their best or are simply not good enough and all are out of form anyway. They simply should not have been selected by whatever measure you choose to use, bar name and reputation. In the case of Peacock and Sinfield they have had their chances, repeatedly, and failed time and again. There are also players in this squad such as Cudjoe, Carvell and Wilkin who fans of their respective teams have said over the last couple of months should be dropped by their clubs as they are playing that poorly and yet they are picked for England. They are average at best. Almost half the squad straight away shouldn't be in it and thats before you even get to the debatable selections

It is truly baffling that Goulding and McIlorum arent in who have been the best players in their respective positions over the course of the season. Goulding has been outstanding this season and has laid tries on a plate for Charnley with excellant centre play. He has outplayed centres that are in the England squads and is the form centre in Super League. McIlorum has been immense all season and is the form hooker in Super League and offers an awful lot to any team in the middle of the park, particularly in tense close games like you would get in an international. Goulding and McIlorum are not even in the England Knights squad and yet players like Wheeler who they have completely outplayed are and even worse players that cant even get in their club teams are.

McNamara's not got a clue.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2088
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Given that there are lots of older experienced players in the current squad and many younger players who will no doubt find it hard to get a look in I would have been interested to see two England squads go head to head. One side would be made up of more experienced or slightly older players and the second team made up of young players with less experience.
It's essentially England vs England Knights except the Knights squad is focused purely on young players currently playing well and possibly pushing for a place in the full squad.
Players like Lee Mossop and Josh Charnley who are called up to the full England squad but haven't made their debut or haven't played many games would play for the younger side.

Something like -

'Experienced'

FB Sam Tomkins
RW Ryan Hall
RC Leroy Cudjoe
LC Ryan Atkins
LW Tom Briscoe
SO Rangi Chase
SH Danny Brough
P Jamie Peacock
H James Roby
P Garreth Carvell
SR Jamie Jones-Buchanan
SR Gareth Hock
LF Sean O'Loughlin

Sub Rob Burrow
Sub Eorl Crabtree
Sub Adrian Morley
Sub Jon Wilkin


'Young England'

FB Greg Eden
RW Josh Charnley
RC Darrell Goulding
LC Zak Hardaker
LW Luke George
SO Jonny Lomax
SH Matty Smith
P Lee Mossop
H Mike McIlorum
P Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
SR Liam Farrell
SR Elliott Whitehead
LF Carl Ablett

Sub Danny Houghton
Sub Larne Patrick
Sub Scott Taylor
Sub Joe Westerman

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5281
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Same old garbage.

241 posts in 17 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
241 posts in 17 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.1865234375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
21m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
5
Recent
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
179
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
30s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40739
40s
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
179
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
5
3m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
8m
Film game
karetaker
5662
9m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4029
9m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
10m
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
10m
2025 Shirt
apollosghost
18
13m
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
159
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
poplar cats
12
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
21
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
5
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
18
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
895
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
567
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1295
England's Women Demolish The W..
1128
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1365
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1151
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1414
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1958
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2166
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2408
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1975
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2215
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2681
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2108
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2178
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 2,256 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
21m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
5
Recent
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
179
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
30s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40739
40s
Planning for next season
Vancouver Le
179
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
5
3m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
8m
Film game
karetaker
5662
9m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4029
9m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
10m
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
10m
2025 Shirt
apollosghost
18
13m
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
159
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
poplar cats
12
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
21
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
5
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
18
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
895
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
567
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1295
England's Women Demolish The W..
1128
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1365
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1151
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1414
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1958
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2166
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2408
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1975
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2215
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2681
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2108
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2178


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!