far be it for me to come out in support of anything Hull FC, but i don't see why a coach cannot express his feelings about a ref's performance, Morgan did this after a game with Thaler and got a whacking fine, when in truth he said nothing that was incorrect, it was and still is the most one sided refereeing display I witnessed in 48 years of watching the game.

Agar may have fallen foul of the RFL, but I have sympathy with him as Childs is a bloody awful referee and should not be at SL level.

I have only seen one of the decisions he made but that one was a joke. The high shot on Long late on a penalty.

I don't have a problem with coaches having a dig at refs, but they have to do it through the right channels. Quite apart from anything else, if you take a pop like Agar did on TV, then it pretty much forces the RFL to back the ref completely, to avoid setting a precedent. Do it through the official channels and you might get a result.

I also think there's a lack of professionalism on the part of coaches who whinge publicly like that. After all, could you imagine the furore if a ref said, after a game : "I think Agar's a disgraceful coach. All that talent in his squad and he can't get them to pass the ball twice without dropping it. He's a disgrace." Or, even better : "Sean Long was a disgrace in that game. He came in from the side to elbow someone in the head. Dirty b@stard shouldn't be allowed on the field."

I mean, it'd be entertaining, but not what we'd like to see, really.

After all his failure, if Agar thinks that Childs is the problem, then maybe that tells us more about why Agar's team keeps failing than it does about Childs' refereeing ability.

Agar will do anything to try to deflect any criticism off him.

Bit out of order criticising him to the lengths he has.



If I was James Child I'd arrange to meet up with him for a straightener. I'm serious.

Agreed, he can blow a whistle.

Take a look at our board and at least 75%+ are blaming the ref for the defeat. The fact is even though he was very poor on friday the players should have adapted and played to the ref rather than trying to take things into their own hands.
As for Kath & Agar coming out against the ref, they have only done that to deflect the criticism at his inept coaching and keep him in a job for a while longer.

As easy as it would be to criticise Hull/Agar in the same way as their fans did to us over Morgan's Thaler rant - I can't. Well done to both I say. Strong words but none the less honest and true.

I also get the impression Richard Agar had his piece about Child prepared long before the match too!

Still, Hull/Agar should expect a fine but someone had to say something soon.

If Agar wouldn`t do it ,I would. I`m serious.
And I don`t mean just over this one game.

If the standard of match officials is so poor, as "experts" on these forums keep telling us, then why are these "experts", who know what is wrong, out there showing easy it is and how it should be done?

When they have been out there and done it we would all be able to see how easy it is and how they have never made an error or penalised anyone.

The players , of course, will be perfect little angels (and butter wouldn't melt in their collective mouths) and will play by the rules all the time.

It always amazes me that there are people who think that people who break the rules should not be punished if caught.

If you think the rules are wrong there are ways and means of attempting to get them amended/removed/changed.

I presume we have the best set of full-time refs the RFL can muster, in which case you're not going to be able to magic up new referees next week. I also presume all these referees are coached/trained/developed by the RFL to help them improve. All slagging the ref does is deter younger and future referees from signing up, thereby reducing the pool of competent officials for the future. So I say there's a direct link between abusing the ref and their competence in future years, and the people to blame are the coaches, directors and fans who commit this abuse. It's been said many times on this forum that you should take up the whistle yourself rather than complaining, because if nothing else you'll find out how bad you and your knowledge is.

not that agar appears to be a ninja assasin or anything, but have you seen james child? my gran could mess him up

Good point

He makes Thierry Alibert look like Arnie doesnt he.



I still think he ought to give it a go though. I can imagine him shaking with rage as he smashes Agars office door off its hinges round the KC Stadium and bursts in shouting 'You got a problem or something pal?'


He better be quick though. Brian Noble will be in Agars office very soon. And he is an ex Policeman.

Yes you can, they are all on here moaning and they of course can do better.

I don't see the problem with a shortage

Whilst I do think that Agar was addressing the Hull FC fans, rather than the governing body, he probably has a point. If it was any other ref, I’d put his rant down to him trying to save his job by complaining about the ref, but this is Child we’re talking about. I rarely blame ref’s, but he really doesn’t belong in Super League.
He ruins games.

We, in the Championship, warned you all about him when he was announced as a SL ref last season. So, I’m not surprised by any of this at all.