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Salford Red Devils RLFC.
[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| Quote: GT "I thought I'd replied in a slightly less subtle way than you, here. Either I'm cracking up or I upset someone...'"
Stop being so sensitive I was responding to the "how much has he actually spent at Salford" comment.
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| Quote: Tre Cool "He seems to have gone for the cheap option with the logo and shirt designs.'"
not really its seems very thought out toward franchising, it would take a genius to market the design or name.
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| Quote: gutterfax "How much as he actually "spent" at Salford?'"
rlNot As Much As He May Spend At Swinton?rl
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Red-Devils-PAW "rlNot As Much As He May Spend At Swinton?rl'"
The story about the Good Dr is more about property development than RL........meanwhile, there's a bloke from Swinton who has invested £13,500,000 in a SL club since 2008 and got not a brass farthing back (nor will he)....that's because he's interested in RL.
Good Luck to the Dr, but he is a business man and other than maybe Leeds and possibly Wigan, owning a SL club isn't about getting a ROI.
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| Quote: gutterfax "The story about the Good Dr is more about property development than RL........meanwhile, there's a bloke from Swinton who has invested £13,500,000 in a SL club since 2008 and got not a brass farthing back (nor will he)....that's because he's interested in RL.
Good Luck to the Dr, but he is a business man and other than maybe Leeds and possibly Wigan, owning a SL club isn't about getting a ROI.'"
Koukash doesn't want to make money from Salford. He wants to win things.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Koukash doesn't want to make money from Salford. He wants to win things.'"
He's not going to do that the way he has gone about it. Teams that win things produce their own top quality players. Rather than throwing money at sewage rats like Hock he'd do well to throw money at bringing through young players.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Koukash doesn't want to make money from Salford. He wants to win things.'"
....he couldn't even "win" Bradford
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[color=#FF0000:1h9kz7p7]Always read the small print...[/color:1h9kz7p7]: |
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| Gutterfax, you do brighten up my day... no matter how bad it gets, I just have to remember that I am not you and it is infinitely better
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Koukash doesn't want to make money from Salford. He wants to win things.'"
That sounds so much more likely
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "He's not going to do that the way he has gone about it. Teams that win things produce their own top quality players he'd do well to throw money at bringing through young players.'"
I think he realizes that.He also realizes that to attract those young players he requires a successful first team,first.
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| Quote: Red-Devils-PAW "I think he realizes that.He also realizes that to attract those young players he requires a successful first team,first.'"
No, no you don't.
Cas - not looked close to a trophy in god knows how many years, but are bringing through some great young players, as well as some of they're former youth team members maturing with the club (like huby)
Warrington - been consistently on the rise for the last 10 years or so, yet to produce any talent of real note.
(To both Warrington and cas fans, this was not a slant at either of your teams, and I don't want to get into a "but this one time" arguments, it is merely a generalised statement)
Success doesn't breed good youth development, good youth development breeds success. I feel like I've said this before
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "No, no you don't.
Cas - not looked close to a trophy in god knows how many years, but are bringing through some great young players, as well as some of they're former youth team members maturing with the club (like huby)
Warrington - been consistently on the rise for the last 10 years or so, yet to produce any talent of real note.
(To both Warrington and cas fans, this was not a slant at either of your teams, and I don't want to get into a "but this one time" arguments, it is merely a generalised statement)
Success doesn't breed good youth development, good youth development breeds success. I feel like I've said this before'"
And yet Warrington have been more successful than Cas in recent years.
What breeds success is big piles of money, sensibly managed. Tbh, I think you need both a top team and top development. But if I had to choose I'd rather win like Warrington than be admired like Cas. Different clubs in different circumstances, obviously.
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| Quote: Red-Devils-PAW "I think he realizes that.He also realizes that to attract those young players he requires a successful first team,first.'"
Youth is the long game. Koucash presumably wants to attack it from all angles.
Invest in youth for the future (to be fair, Salford already produce a few decent youngsters), but gt some big names in to attract the species and get them away from the foot of the table.
Its very hard to buy success for a club like Salford. They've proably had to pay over the odds to get players to join them (compared to them signing for a club like, say, Leeds), but the higher up the table they get, the less this will apply to future signings.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "
What breeds success is big piles of money, sensibly managed.'"
This is the most sensible thing posted on this thread (though of course, it could lead to another 20 pages of what sensibly managed means )
(And I only used cas because if I used one of the big clubs, who are just as successful as Warrington, apparently buying players in the 80s means that it doesn't count. That said looking at the table right now, it's definitely looking brighter for cas than wire! )
Every club, regardless of budget has the opportunity to blood, and retain their best young players. But some teams do it better than others. You don't need success to do so, and it irritates me people saying you need success for youth development, because it's just a lazy excuse imo.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "And yet Warrington have been more successful than Cas in recent years.
What breeds success is big piles of money, sensibly managed. Tbh, I think you need both a top team and top development. But if I had to choose I'd rather win like Warrington than be admired like Cas. Different clubs in different circumstances, obviously.'"
Money's certainly never a bad thing.
My club have a shiney new stadium and are building towards financial stability, but it taken a boat load of cash to be spend and written off by the "investors".
What puzzles me about the London thing, Gutterfax says that his man has invested/poured away over £13mil into the London broncos and they are looking weaker than ever. SURELY a man who has that sort of cash to play with has the business acumen to make a half decent job of it (or access to people to do it for him)?
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