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| And hopefully the fallout from this sees the RFL sued and the MRP all sacked and the disciplinary process rewritten. It'll be interesting to see what would happen if Paasi took legal action against them for his injuries, particularly if he ultimately doesn't make a comeback.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Which is ironic really given that rather than question their own teams tackling techniques when they've received ban after ban, they've tried to claim some sort of conspiracy.'"
I've no problem with any of the bans given to Saints players this season what I do have a problem with is a bloke's ended the season of ywo players and nothing being done
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| Quote: thesaint71 "I've no problem with any of the bans given to Saints players this season what I do have a problem with is a bloke's ended the season of ywo players and nothing being done'"
The club needs to get official clarification from the RFL and Disciplinary that this type of "Cannonball Tackle" on the knee joint is legal and allowable. The club can then prepare for this type of technique to execute on Asiata in the home against Leigh.
I believe the scans on Passi's knee is showing up far worse than expected, 9 months is a bit optimistic its probably closer to a career ending situation.
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| Even before the Passi incident, I felt very uneasy and uncomfortable watching that lad tackle. A shocking technique, 2 season ending injuries and it could have been more. The passi one looked like a “throw whatever you’ve got at the man to defend your own line” and although he did a job, it’s come with consequences.
Made up for Leigh. I’m a Widnes fan and watching their development this year has been a breathe of fresh air, and I hope they go onto win something.
Not here to throw the book at anyone but at minimum, Leigh really need to work at Asiatas tackling technique before more get injured.
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| Think you should all go and watch the tackle on taylan may,and who did it,ended that lads season before it even started.
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| I know it was brave but was it sensible that Walmsley stayed on. Did he in fact make the injury worse?
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| Quote: shadrack "Think you should all go and watch the tackle on taylan may,and who did it,ended that lads season before it even started. '"
What a pathetic post. Rather than just make a point, you drag up a completely unrelated point about a pretty normal tackle.
The NRL's match review co-ordinator Luke Patten confirmed the tackle was reviewed, but said “members all agreed that the actions of Paasi were not careless and did not warrant a charge”. “Firstly, the initial point of contact by Paasi was high on May’s hip/upper thigh,” Patten said in a statement to the Sydney Morning Herald. “For a tackle to be considered dangerous and spearing at the legs, the Match Review Committee must see forceful contact at or around the knee of the attacking player. “Paasi also drops to his knees at the point of contact, which we encourage players to do, and did not drop his body weight onto the back of May’s lower legs. This is one of the key indicators that we would look for in a hip-drop tackle.”
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| Well guess what, the MRP also decided that asiatas tackles were fine too.
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| Quote: Seth "Well guess what, the MRP also decided that asiatas tackles were fine too.'"
What's the relevance though? Paasi was involved in a tackle where someone got injured five months ago, so therefore it's okay for a player to deliberately injure four opposition players? Lance Hohaia got sent off in a junior game, so the Ben Flower thing was okay? The Paasi tackle wasn't even inherently dangerous, tackles the hip, doesn't attack any joints, ensures he doesn't trap the legs, it's just an accident.
There will be no retrospective punishment for Asiata and I'm not calling for any either. What we need is the rules clarifying to make sure there are no more tackles like this going forward. It's already outlawed in the NRL, yet not here. That needs to be fixed. A lot of people on here need to grow up a bit. The resentment to Saints success over the years is clouding a lot of judgements, I get Leigh fans being defensive, but there's an ethical line that's been crossed with these tackles and the sport can't let it continue.
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| Quote: thesaint71 "I've no problem with any of the bans given to Saints players this season what I do have a problem with is a bloke's ended the season of ywo players and nothing being done'"
Just because a player has got injured doesn't necessarily mean there should be any bans dished out though does it.
The Knowles incident was completely different but old Wello has used that to try and get a reaction and some sympathy.
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| Quote: Saddened! "This isn't a moan, nothing to do with the game itself, or Leigh for that matter. I have no issues with you progressing or being better than Saints currently. I'm not even calling for him to be banned for the tackles, I've said I don't think it's covered by the current rules.
Paasi's career is rumoured to be over. The tackle was vile whether it's currently legal or not, that's my point, so was the one on Walmsley. I think we need to look at changing the rules as you can't have players throwing themselves at the shins/knees as recklessly as that, it's just too dangerous. If it continues or becomes a theme like cannonballs, chicken wings and crushers did, we're going to see broken legs and maimed players far more frequently, that's not a good thing. If someone with the shape and mass of say Konrad Hurrell tackled like this, you'd see plenty being maimed. Is that a good thing for the game?'"
Say's who exactly, 'cry baby' Wellens ?
p.s. I hope it isn't over but I've read this nowhere.
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| [sizeBREAKING NEWS!!![/size
The RFL sympathises with Paul Wellens, and have decided that at the start of the 2024 season, rugby league will now become Tag rugby to cover all players welfare, and avoid injuries. The RFL also state that the Insurance premium will decrease by a significant amount, and the sport will be in healthy financial position going forward.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Which is ironic really given that rather than question their own teams tackling techniques when they've received ban after ban, they've tried to claim some sort of conspiracy.'" St Helens fans, at least those you encounter on the internet, seem to be absolute loons and totally lacking in self awareness or rational judgement. Everything is a conspiracy - you just need to go back to those embarrassing tantrums after the 2019 Cup final to see that.
Earlier this season, when Hurrell took out Myler with a shoulder to the head off the ball, for which he was red carded, they literally convinced themselves that Myler had somehow thrown himself at Hurrell and that what was a very clear red card was some sort of RFL/refereeing conspiracy.
Have they got an excess of lead in the water over there or something?
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| Quote: MjM "Have they got an excess of lead in the water over there or something?'"
Years of something about a game for the whole family I think it is.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Just because a player has got injured doesn't necessarily mean there should be any bans dished out though does it.
The Knowles incident was completely different but old Wello has used that to try and get a reaction and some sympathy.'"
Only way it was different was that Knowles got 2 extra games for ending Coopers season
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