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| Quote: Judder Man "SKY ran a poll of the best win on OZ soil and it came out 60% in Saints favour. There has also been comments from Morley, Kear, Noble, Buderus, Sully saying in their opinion the Saints win was the more impressive for many reasons.
Our Wigoon fans must remember their team had a net value equal or more than the Brisbane Broncos were full time professionals and and almost had a full Great Britain side because all of the money thrown out to create that team. Years down the line the likes of Robinson, Offiah, Edwards, Farrell, Connolly, John-Mather deserted rugby league and went into bed with rugby union and hence did not contribute anything to the league game with the exception of Dennis Betts. Eventually the "Brown Envelope Maverick" of Maurice Lyndsay set the seeds of failure for the club as Superleague surfaced and became rent boys to Wigan Athletic, also they have never dominated Superleague in the way Bradford, Leeds and Saints have done in this salary capped level playing field era.
The Saints win is huge in many ways and not for the club alone, leading up to the game the Saints Club mantra was that they represented Superleague and not as a club entity by itself. They felt the media disrespected our UK competition and was felt by Wello and his players. The Saints net value salary cap spend is only around £2m compared to Penriths £6.5 that is an enormous disparity compared to the Wigoon/Brisbane one, so that was an enormous challenge in itself.
The Wigoon WCC win didn't really benefit rugby league because other clubs couldn't try the spend and bust format. The Saints win is huge, clubs will see the club structure at saints and see the possibility that in a few years others could emulate it, that would benefit Superleague and we might see the likes of Warrington and Hull jumping on that band wagon first to strengthen the UK game.'" Wigan went into that game without their two first choice props in Kelvin Skerrett and Andy Platt. That's the equivalent of Saints going into last weeks game without Walmsley and Lees.
That Brisbane team was a better team than that Penrith team you played last week and played better on the respective days.
Wigan actually won the game inside 80 minutes whereas Saints ended up not being able to hold out in normal time.
I stand by my statement that the Wigan victory was better and I'll add, more iconic and is still remembered fondly and still watched by neutrals like me 30 years later
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| Just as an aside, watched The Chase earlier this evening and one of the questions was "what is the name of St Helens stadium" They gave one correct and two incorrect answers.
Neither the contestant, Compere or Chaser knew the answer. Statistically, the odds of this happening are something like 1/10.
Four Grand Finals and one World Club Challenge in the past 4 years have barely registered as an achievement in the public view.
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| They chose St Helens for that question because they are the greatest rugby league team of all time in this country. They couldn’t ask wigan because they don’t have a stadium
#rentboys
#wouldhavetoaskpermissionfromthefootballclub
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| Do St Helens supporters have the most fragile egos? Going by this thread, yes.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "Not just rugby league, are Saints the greatest institution'"
You could have just stopped there. St Helens have transcended the sport and are now pivotal to humanity's survival.
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| Quote: Seth "Do St Helens supporters have the most fragile egos? Going by this thread, yes.'"
They are certainly a special breed
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| Stains fans were not that gobby when Leigh dicked them
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| Quote: [Gareth] ""They are certainly a special inbreed'"
Edit for accuracy.
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| Quote: RoyBoy29 "Stains fans were not that gobby when Leigh dicked them'"
Saints fans are never gobby. That's the problem with these abusive threads. You're all attacking success, it's jealousy, that's all it is. Watch Warrington take an almighty dive in popularity and watch their salary cap compliance be called into question if they are the team to take over dominating the rest of Super League. The best are always hated.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Saints fans are never gobby. That's the problem with these abusive threads. You're all attacking success, it's jealousy, that's all it is. Watch Warrington take an almighty dive in popularity and watch their salary cap compliance be called into question if they are the team to take over dominating the rest of Super League. The best are always hated.'"
You mean like this thread, started by a Saints fan
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| Quote: Saddened! "Saints fans are never gobby. That's the problem with these abusive threads. You're all attacking success, it's jealousy, that's all it is. Watch Warrington take an almighty dive in popularity and watch their salary cap compliance be called into question if they are the team to take over dominating the rest of Super League. The best are always hated.'"
You are right. It’s all about being jealous of success. That’s why no one will ever be jealous of Leigh
#smallvillageinwigan
#theyusedaphotoofajaguar
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "You are right. It’s all about being jealous of success. That’s why no one will ever be jealous of Leigh
#smallvillageinwigan
#theyusedaphotoofajaguar'"
#trollwhoadminturnablindeyeto
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "You are right. It’s all about being jealous of success. That’s why no one will ever be jealous of Leigh
#smallvillageinwigan
#theyusedaphotoofajaguar'"
Yep just look at the way people talk about AS Carcassone after their 12 league titles!
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "You are right. It’s all about being jealous of success. '"
It's nothing about jealousy. It's more about Saints supporters acting up to the stereotype of being the most spiteful and abhorrent fans in the history of sport.
Just look at how they act after they lose a game.
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| Quote: Leeds_Luke "It's nothing about jealousy. It's more about Saints supporters acting up to the stereotype of being the most spiteful and abhorrent fans in the history of sport.
Just look at how they act after they lose a game.'"
We will see more of that shortly.
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